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if the US Sport are easy to find, wp0zzz95zjs905001 to 5029 to my knowledge (29 made), the Euro Sport are much more difficult to identify because their VINs are certainly mixed with the "regular" comfort.
The US have a complete roll cage and Autoflug harnesses.
There are two more USA Sport Vin's you are missing from your numbering...
wp0zzz95zjs905030 and one which i am not at liberty to discuss (the latter would bring the total number of USA Sports to 31, and no... it is not vin# ending in "31".
The USA Sport vin#'s where differentiated from the Komfort's by the 14th digit.
The 14th digit for USA Sports had the number "5"
The 14th digit for EURO Sports and Komforts had the number "0"
And yes, the USA Sports had "AutoFlug" Harness, and the mounting was on top of the rear parcel shelf, while the Euro Sports had "Matter" Harness', and the mounting was through the rear parcel shelf, through a belt opening.
A lot of emphasis has been put on "the last" one produced, etc.... 959's did not follow this type of sequential production,
Example:
#900064 was actually the 192'd 959 produced
#900276 was the 16th 959 produced
the only VIN# i am aware that actually correlates to their production number is #900123 which is the 123rd 959 produced
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So far, I have identified three series for the production cars:
wp0zzz95zhs900... are 1987 Euro cars,
wp0zzz95zjs900... are 1988 Euro cars,
wp0zzz95zjs9050.. are 1988 US sport cars.
But all bodies were 1987, with number like 147-0...
For example, wp0zzz95zjs905017 has the body number 147-0267.
So far, I have identified three series for the production cars:
wp0zzz95zhs900... are 1987 Euro cars,
wp0zzz95zjs900... are 1988 Euro cars,
wp0zzz95zjs9050.. are 1988 US sport cars.
But all bodies were 1987, with number like 147-0...
For example, wp0zzz95zjs905017 has the body number 147-0267.
The body number is on top left.
yes, but the 'H' and 'J' are really only representative of year. Since all USA Sports were built in the 1988/1989 they were given the 'J' designation. The 'J' was also later used for the series II production in 1992 - 1993, when Porsche decided to build 8 cars out of spare parts. (Porsche really should have used 'N' or 'P', but i guess they did this for homologation reasons, if they used a correct year designation then maybe the 959's would have had to have equipment upgraded to current safety and emissions standards)
A definitive deciphering of 959 VIN#'s:
following your example, wp0zzz95zjs905017
Digit / Meaning
1 / W = "West" Germany
2 / P = Porsche
3 / 0 = Sports car
4,5,6 / ZZZ = Europe/RoW, all 959's were technically Europe or RoW cars. The USA Sport distinction would come with the 14th digit
7,8,12 / 959 = Model designation
9 / Z = Europe/RoW
10 / H = 1987
or,
10 / J = 1988
11 / S = Stuttgart
13,14,15,16,17 / 05017 = production number
the '5' in the 14th position designates the USA Sport
Small Trivia: The Silver 959. All Silver Production 959's are Komfort Models. USA Sports were either Red or White. Euro Sports were any standard color, none however, were specified in Silver.
There is one Dark Green 959, and it belonged to the late King Hussein of Jordan. It is still in the Royal Family's ownership and displayed in the Royal Automobile Museum in Amman, Jordan.
Now, regarding the Sport Euros, do you confirm that 7 were 1987 and 1 was a 1988?
Was one of them white, with white rims and a burgundy interior?
Yes, there are 8 produced in total ....making this the absolute rarest version of the 959.
Here is the breakdown:
Exterior / Interior
1) Red / Grey
2) Graphite / Grey - special 935 leathered Racing seats
3) White / Grey *not sure of interior color
4) Red / Black
5) White / Grey (ex. WALTER RÖHRL)
6) Red / ??
7) Red / Grey *this car has not been confirmed
8) White / Burgundy - special 935 leathered Racing seats
Here are photos of the only one that was made in White with Burgundy interior:
Last edited by TwinTurbo959; 01-08-2016 at 09:25 PM.
Yes, there are 8 produced in total ....making this the absolute rarest version of the 959.
Here is the breakdown:
Exterior / Interior
1) Red / Grey
2) Graphite / Grey - special 935 leathered Racing seats
3) White / Grey *not sure of interior color
4) Red / Black
5) White / Grey (ex. WALTER RÖHRL)
6) Red / ??
7) Red / Grey *this car has not been confirmed
8) White / Burgundy - special 935 leathered Racing seats
Here are photos of the only one that was made in White with Burgundy interior:
Thank you very much.
That last white is crazy with the lollipop seats in leather with the 959 pattern
"S-JD 5605" that is a car tested by journalists seems to be a pre-production S.
That last white is crazy with the lollipop seats in leather with the 959 pattern
"S-JD 5605" that is a car tested by journalists seems to be a pre-production S.
S-JD 5605 is a preproduction Komfort. It retains the Hydraulic Lifting System. (note the hydraulic-fill flap for the lifting system on the left rear fender)
The "pre-production" cars are easy to identify because they do not have headlight washers, and most did not have the rear black rubber gurney flap (spoiler) attached to the rear engine lid. Although, these items were replaced on most preproduction cars before being sold to the public. One notable exception is Helmut Bott's car (Plate: BBPW916) that is currently in the Brumos Racing Collection.
Originally Posted by 928cs
Is this car an original S US or a modified Comfort ?
There was one Komfort with a Rollcage that i know of, i do not know if it was originally ordered that way, or modified after the fact. The car in the link is the car in question. It also has the lightweight doors with cut map pockets, Electric windows found on the USA Sport Models. BUT, this car also has an aftermarket stereo system installed, adding weight to the front luggage compartment and rear seat section. (see photos)
Last edited by TwinTurbo959; 01-11-2016 at 09:30 AM.
S-JD 5605 is a preproduction Komfort. It retains the Hydraulic Lifting System. (note the hydraulic-fill flap for the lifting system on the left rear fender)
I have an article with S-JD 5605 being tested and think this a S, no electric windows, AC, nor hydraulic pump, cloth sport seats (heating), no rear seats.
But the preproduction cars are certainly not so easy to categorize as the production cars.
I doubt the grey one is an original S. The cage and harnesses are not the right models by example.