Diecast question
#1
Burning Brakes
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Diecast question
I enjoy collecting various 911's in 1/18th diecast for display in my office. I am not a serious collector. Mainly just like to look at them. First thing I do is remove the box and the base and throw all that away and just display the car itself. I have no concern with ever trying to sell them or anything. With that being said I like the 1/18th cars in the $175 or less price range.
I would like to add a 911R and the 991 GT2RS to my collection but as of now I only see the numbered editions in 1/18th that are in the $500 range. That is beyond what I want to spend for my purposes even though I have seen them in person and they look very nice.
Typically after a certain time will other diecast manufacturers start producing them in a more reasonable price range for my purposes?
I would like to add a 911R and the 991 GT2RS to my collection but as of now I only see the numbered editions in 1/18th that are in the $500 range. That is beyond what I want to spend for my purposes even though I have seen them in person and they look very nice.
Typically after a certain time will other diecast manufacturers start producing them in a more reasonable price range for my purposes?
#2
Only time will tell, but generally exotic cars are eventually reproduced by multiple brands. If so, GT Spirit and Minichamps are the most likely.
For news on upcoming scale models, I suggest you occasionally check this site: http://www.diecastsociety.com/
It focuses on 1:18 and 1:43 scales but in my experience provides the most reliable news of the industry. Any similarly reliable site is usually in German. www.modelcarforum.de is one, but it is of course 99% in German.
Other than that, I would actually ask your dealer parts desk. Some of the Spark 991 models have a 'WAP' Porsche part number and are available from the parts/accessories counter. Your dealer may have one laying in a corner they forgot about, maybe they'll discount it. However, I have heard that even the dealers move these limited 1:18 models fairly quickly.
You could also try contacting GT Spirit or Minichamps directly to ask if they plan to release an R or GT2 RS.
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For the GT2 RS specifically, the car is too new right now. Spark has an exclusive contract with Porsche AG that allows them access to official drawings prior to the 1:1's reveal. This is the only explanation for Spark's ability to release the scale car at the same time as the 1:1. This seems to apply only to special 1:1 models (R, RS, etc.).
I suspect this double-secret special exclusive contract lasts until the limited runs are all gone. Maybe afterwards other brands are allowed to reproduce the car? I don't really know, and am only inferring. Of course Spark seems to keep producing limited runs of the 911 R in every color they can think of, prolonging this theorized exclusive window.
It makes business sense to both parties; Porsche gets a replica of their car available immediately, and Spark gets exclusive rights to produce a scale version of a coveted 1:1 car. Of course it isn't great for the consumer.
For news on upcoming scale models, I suggest you occasionally check this site: http://www.diecastsociety.com/
It focuses on 1:18 and 1:43 scales but in my experience provides the most reliable news of the industry. Any similarly reliable site is usually in German. www.modelcarforum.de is one, but it is of course 99% in German.
Other than that, I would actually ask your dealer parts desk. Some of the Spark 991 models have a 'WAP' Porsche part number and are available from the parts/accessories counter. Your dealer may have one laying in a corner they forgot about, maybe they'll discount it. However, I have heard that even the dealers move these limited 1:18 models fairly quickly.
You could also try contacting GT Spirit or Minichamps directly to ask if they plan to release an R or GT2 RS.
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For the GT2 RS specifically, the car is too new right now. Spark has an exclusive contract with Porsche AG that allows them access to official drawings prior to the 1:1's reveal. This is the only explanation for Spark's ability to release the scale car at the same time as the 1:1. This seems to apply only to special 1:1 models (R, RS, etc.).
I suspect this double-secret special exclusive contract lasts until the limited runs are all gone. Maybe afterwards other brands are allowed to reproduce the car? I don't really know, and am only inferring. Of course Spark seems to keep producing limited runs of the 911 R in every color they can think of, prolonging this theorized exclusive window.
It makes business sense to both parties; Porsche gets a replica of their car available immediately, and Spark gets exclusive rights to produce a scale version of a coveted 1:1 car. Of course it isn't great for the consumer.
Last edited by FrenchToast; 12-13-2017 at 11:36 PM.
#4
Just in, Maisto has announced a 1:18 2018 GT2 RS. Silver. No pictures.
Sooner than I thought, but I guess by now they have been able to rent a private car to scan/draw it.
Sooner than I thought, but I guess by now they have been able to rent a private car to scan/draw it.
Last edited by FrenchToast; 01-04-2018 at 02:58 PM.
#6
Similar to Bburago (whom they've merged with), Sunstar and Welly. Base, bottom, entry level. They used to be $15-30, I think they've crept up to $25-40 now.
They are below AutoArt, Kyosho, Minichamps, etc.
They aren't highly detailed, as their intent is to be more a toy rather than a collectible. However in some cases they can be very well detailed for their price. I think their Porsche #1 roadster may be their best work. (The better version - they actually made a crappy version where they barely painted anything.) Pictures here of the better one.
Most of the Maisto's I have are pretty good for what they are.
Here is their GT3 RS 4.0, which is typical Maisto/Bburago presentation. It is actually a Bburago, this is one of the first models they made after merging with them.
Here is a Maisto 997.
They are below AutoArt, Kyosho, Minichamps, etc.
They aren't highly detailed, as their intent is to be more a toy rather than a collectible. However in some cases they can be very well detailed for their price. I think their Porsche #1 roadster may be their best work. (The better version - they actually made a crappy version where they barely painted anything.) Pictures here of the better one.
Most of the Maisto's I have are pretty good for what they are.
Here is their GT3 RS 4.0, which is typical Maisto/Bburago presentation. It is actually a Bburago, this is one of the first models they made after merging with them.
Here is a Maisto 997.
Last edited by FrenchToast; 01-04-2018 at 02:59 PM.
#7
AutoArt has announced six variants for 2018. AutoArt doesn't always release models when they say they are going to, so could be 2019!
78171 – PORSCHE 911(991) GT2 RS (WHITE)
78172 – PORSCHE 911(991) GT2 RS (BLACK)
78173 – PORSCHE 911(991) GT2 RS (GUARDS RED)
78174 – PORSCHE 911(991) GT2 RS WEISSACH PACKAGE (GT SILVER)
78176 – PORSCHE 911(991) GT2 RS WEISSACH PACKAGE (MIAMI BLUE)
78177 – PORSCHE 911(991) GT2 RS WEISSACH PACKAGE (RACING YELLOW)
http://www.diecastsociety.com/autoar...port-supercar/
78171 – PORSCHE 911(991) GT2 RS (WHITE)
78172 – PORSCHE 911(991) GT2 RS (BLACK)
78173 – PORSCHE 911(991) GT2 RS (GUARDS RED)
78174 – PORSCHE 911(991) GT2 RS WEISSACH PACKAGE (GT SILVER)
78176 – PORSCHE 911(991) GT2 RS WEISSACH PACKAGE (MIAMI BLUE)
78177 – PORSCHE 911(991) GT2 RS WEISSACH PACKAGE (RACING YELLOW)
http://www.diecastsociety.com/autoar...port-supercar/
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#8
Burning Brakes
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AutoArt has announced six variants for 2018. AutoArt doesn't always release models when they say they are going to, so could be 2019!
78171 – PORSCHE 911(991) GT2 RS (WHITE)
78172 – PORSCHE 911(991) GT2 RS (BLACK)
78173 – PORSCHE 911(991) GT2 RS (GUARDS RED)
78174 – PORSCHE 911(991) GT2 RS WEISSACH PACKAGE (GT SILVER)
78176 – PORSCHE 911(991) GT2 RS WEISSACH PACKAGE (MIAMI BLUE)
78177 – PORSCHE 911(991) GT2 RS WEISSACH PACKAGE (RACING YELLOW)
http://www.diecastsociety.com/autoar...port-supercar/
78171 – PORSCHE 911(991) GT2 RS (WHITE)
78172 – PORSCHE 911(991) GT2 RS (BLACK)
78173 – PORSCHE 911(991) GT2 RS (GUARDS RED)
78174 – PORSCHE 911(991) GT2 RS WEISSACH PACKAGE (GT SILVER)
78176 – PORSCHE 911(991) GT2 RS WEISSACH PACKAGE (MIAMI BLUE)
78177 – PORSCHE 911(991) GT2 RS WEISSACH PACKAGE (RACING YELLOW)
http://www.diecastsociety.com/autoar...port-supercar/
Appreciate you coming back to this thread. Will keep watching it if you come across any more info please post.
#9
FWIW, it is possible not all those colors are released or it is only released in one version (Weissach or non-Weissach). AutoArt has in the past announced then cancelled models. The most similar example was the 997 Sport Classic, which was announced but cancelled. AutoArt has a reputation of an 'optimistic' release schedule. Models of newer cars, like the GT2 RS, are more likely to be released on time.
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Looked up the Maisto, no news. Apparently they have made a 1:43, below. Not promising for the supposed 1:18, but it is smaller and more a toy than collectible. (Click pic for blog post).
Last edited by FrenchToast; 02-02-2018 at 01:00 AM.
#10
Predictably, the AA models were not released in 2018. But they have updated the proposed colors.
78171 – PORSCHE 911 (991.2) GT2 RS WEISSACH PACKAGE ( WHITE )
78172 – PORSCHE 911 (991.2) GT2 RS WEISSACH PACKAGE ( LAVA ORANGE )
78173 – PORSCHE 911 (991.2) GT2 RS WEISSACH PACKAGE ( GUARDS RED )
78174 – PORSCHE 911 (991.2) GT2 RS WEISSACH PACKAGE ( GT SILVER )
78175 – PORSCHE 911 (991.2) GT2 RS WEISSACH PACKAGE ( MIAMI BLUE )
78176 – PORSCHE 911 (991.2) GT3 RS WEISSACH PACKAGE ( CRAYON ) [probably Chalk, lost in translation?]
78177 – PORSCHE 911 (991.2) GT3 RS WEISSACH PACKAGE ( GUARDS RED )
78178 – PORSCHE 911 (991.2) GT3 RS WEISSACH PACKAGE ( MIAMI BLUE )
78179 – PORSCHE 911 (991.2) GT3 RS WEISSACH PACKAGE ( GT SILVER )
https://diecastsociety.com/autoart-u...ssach-package/
Spark makes both a Weissach and normal. Not sure the extent of the color choices. Nothing opens though.
If I had to guess, the AA ones would open, since they can use some castings from their 991.1 GT3 RS. But its just a guess.
Originally Posted by DiecastSociety
78171 – PORSCHE 911 (991.2) GT2 RS WEISSACH PACKAGE ( WHITE )
78172 – PORSCHE 911 (991.2) GT2 RS WEISSACH PACKAGE ( LAVA ORANGE )
78173 – PORSCHE 911 (991.2) GT2 RS WEISSACH PACKAGE ( GUARDS RED )
78174 – PORSCHE 911 (991.2) GT2 RS WEISSACH PACKAGE ( GT SILVER )
78175 – PORSCHE 911 (991.2) GT2 RS WEISSACH PACKAGE ( MIAMI BLUE )
78176 – PORSCHE 911 (991.2) GT3 RS WEISSACH PACKAGE ( CRAYON ) [probably Chalk, lost in translation?]
78177 – PORSCHE 911 (991.2) GT3 RS WEISSACH PACKAGE ( GUARDS RED )
78178 – PORSCHE 911 (991.2) GT3 RS WEISSACH PACKAGE ( MIAMI BLUE )
78179 – PORSCHE 911 (991.2) GT3 RS WEISSACH PACKAGE ( GT SILVER )
Spark makes both a Weissach and normal. Not sure the extent of the color choices. Nothing opens though.
If I had to guess, the AA ones would open, since they can use some castings from their 991.1 GT3 RS. But its just a guess.
#11
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Thanks for the update. I broke down and bought a more expensive 2RS albeit at a price I find more reasonable.
Still really want a 3rs in 1/18th!
Still really want a 3rs in 1/18th!