FIA 981 GT4 Cayman
#46
The only saving you will see will be in tans and engine.
My guess is a replacement engine will be $12-15k-ish and dont have clue on the PDK rebuild or replace.
But considering you get 50-80 hours on a cup motor for $25-35k rebuild... thats a savings and ABS will save on the tire and crash budget..but with 991 cup front end and 991 cup brakes.. you will have the same costs as a 991 Cup and have to buy all rotors and pads from PMNA for $$$$
My guess is a replacement engine will be $12-15k-ish and dont have clue on the PDK rebuild or replace.
But considering you get 50-80 hours on a cup motor for $25-35k rebuild... thats a savings and ABS will save on the tire and crash budget..but with 991 cup front end and 991 cup brakes.. you will have the same costs as a 991 Cup and have to buy all rotors and pads from PMNA for $$$$
#47
Mobonic what currency are you working with?
I believe GT3 Canada wants to run the two cars together. This would be due to smaller fields and the fact the 997 will be phasing out in the next couple years.
That being said I was incorrect earlier saying IMSA and Porsche "have said" Turns out it is only Porsche right now. Talks with IMSA on this proposal have not started...yet.
It will be at least 2017 before we see anything in competition.
I believe GT3 Canada wants to run the two cars together. This would be due to smaller fields and the fact the 997 will be phasing out in the next couple years.
That being said I was incorrect earlier saying IMSA and Porsche "have said" Turns out it is only Porsche right now. Talks with IMSA on this proposal have not started...yet.
It will be at least 2017 before we see anything in competition.
#48
Not what is being said here, I don't think it will be a FIA spec GT4 car. I have heard $120k-$130k which makes sense when you look at the starting price of the car $95k CDN. My guess is modifications will be simple. Only speculation here but Cage, seat, safety items, exhaust, ECU upgrade and suspension. At the factory level deleting the the original items and adding needed equipment seems to put the price point
of $125k in the ball park.
Can you clarify FIA GT4 spec?
of $125k in the ball park.
Can you clarify FIA GT4 spec?
They may be talking one make series in 2017 or 2018. I just know that what I've been told is that for 2016 there will not be enough cars made or available to do something like that. Very limited supply in year one. They may have a home in WC but I doubt that they will get them in the rules in IMSA Continental Tire next year.
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Cayman GT4 cup car will cost the same for crew and support as 991 Cup.
Parts/spares will be more street car off the shelf stuff thus cheaper then parts/spares for 991Cup from PMNA.
I imagine pump gas will power the little bastards too.
Nothing cheap or budget about racing however it will be more affordable to purchase and maintain compare to 991Cup IMO.
Parts/spares will be more street car off the shelf stuff thus cheaper then parts/spares for 991Cup from PMNA.
I imagine pump gas will power the little bastards too.
Nothing cheap or budget about racing however it will be more affordable to purchase and maintain compare to 991Cup IMO.
#52
GTGears if it uses PFC brakes and cup front
end PMNA will have to support no?
Talking to the teams they think weekend cost
will be lower as set up will be limited. Maintenance
Should also be lower.
end PMNA will have to support no?
Talking to the teams they think weekend cost
will be lower as set up will be limited. Maintenance
Should also be lower.
#54
You are correct. The GT4 Cayman factory racecar will NOT be a GT4 FIA spec racecar. It may get homologated but it wouldn't be competitive.
They may be talking one make series in 2017 or 2018. I just know that what I've been told is that for 2016 there will not be enough cars made or available to do something like that. Very limited supply in year one. They may have a home in WC but I doubt that they will get them in the rules in IMSA Continental Tire next year.
They may be talking one make series in 2017 or 2018. I just know that what I've been told is that for 2016 there will not be enough cars made or available to do something like that. Very limited supply in year one. They may have a home in WC but I doubt that they will get them in the rules in IMSA Continental Tire next year.
Why do you say it won't be an FIA spec car? It seems like a natural progression for Porsche.
Cayman GT4 cup car will cost the same for crew and support as 991 Cup.
Parts/spares will be more street car off the shelf stuff thus cheaper then parts/spares for 991Cup from PMNA.
I imagine pump gas will power the little bastards too.
Nothing cheap or budget about racing however it will be more affordable to purchase and maintain compare to 991Cup IMO.
Parts/spares will be more street car off the shelf stuff thus cheaper then parts/spares for 991Cup from PMNA.
I imagine pump gas will power the little bastards too.
Nothing cheap or budget about racing however it will be more affordable to purchase and maintain compare to 991Cup IMO.
I guess this comes down to whether its going to be an FIA spec car or simply a one make series car.
#56
"They" can be a lot of different people. When I say "they" I mean that Porsche Motorsports will not be homologating the car, just like they didn't homologate the 987.2 in GT4. But someone did and they race there. If "they" are going to homologate it, it will be someone like Marius, who brings a fully built and developed car and tries to get it approved. Of course they aren't going to show up with a non-competitive car.
We also need to keep in mind that the various arms of Porsche Motorsports around the world aren't all ruled by a single edict on something like this. Here in the States we pretty much don't have an equivalent of GT4 FIA racing. We've got IMSA Conti GS and World Challenge GTS. The car, in various forms, again developed by the teams just like Goldcrest has developed and homologated Jack Baldwin's car for GTS, will very likely find it's way into pro racing here. What PMGB or the guys in SE Asia do might be very different than here.
But what I'm hearing is they (in this instance 'they' are PMNA) fancy this car more of a gentleman Club racer car. It could find a one make home in Pirelli Driver's Cup or with the HSR guys in Mission/Stuttgart Cup. What is being said about Canada makes sense because their GT3 series isn't anywhere near as populated as our series. They don't even have multiple GT3 series like we do. Here, IMSA GT3 is the "pro" series and PDC and Mission are more "am" even though there is some overlap of teams and drivers across the series.
katmeho,
As I said, I don't know that there will be a ton of new "motorsports" parts on these cars. It's already a parts bin car with a bunch of GT3 stuff bolted on. Is PMNA going to sell their cages through the dealer? Doubtful. What exactly is on the car and will get part numbers and distributed through the dealer remains to be seen. I think it you want to hot rod your GT4 street car, the aftermarket is going to better serve you with go fast bits than the mothership.
#57
So finally we have finished the last build and are able to talk prices.
The final version of the car is build from a raw chassis up.
Parts List:
-Complete 991 Cup Front end (bodywork, radiators etc )
-991 Front Brake assembly
-991 Cup Sway Bars
-991 Cup uprights
-Front to Rear adjustable brake bias
-Bosch ABS Unit
-400bhp Porsche DFi engine, New intake, throttle body and flashed ECU, new oil channels
-Porsche dual clutch GB with adjust gearing and new Diff
-Carbon Fiber Doors and Panels
-BBS 3 piece wheels
-PCCB rear brake calipers with steel discs
-Purpose build lightweight motorsport wire loom
-Complete Bosche sensors for Data analysis
-Motec CDL3
-Paddle shift steering wheel
-FT3 Fuel cell
-Airjack system
-991 Cup power steering system
-991 Cup Rack and Pinion
-KA Motorsport Race exhaust
The total price for the Car ready to go is $142,000.00
It is legal to run in any GT4 series. Also in any club racing scenario as well as Pirelli World Challenge. This is priced well below other FIA GT4 options.
The Porsche GT4 version of the Cayman will be considerably more.
The final version of the car is build from a raw chassis up.
Parts List:
-Complete 991 Cup Front end (bodywork, radiators etc )
-991 Front Brake assembly
-991 Cup Sway Bars
-991 Cup uprights
-Front to Rear adjustable brake bias
-Bosch ABS Unit
-400bhp Porsche DFi engine, New intake, throttle body and flashed ECU, new oil channels
-Porsche dual clutch GB with adjust gearing and new Diff
-Carbon Fiber Doors and Panels
-BBS 3 piece wheels
-PCCB rear brake calipers with steel discs
-Purpose build lightweight motorsport wire loom
-Complete Bosche sensors for Data analysis
-Motec CDL3
-Paddle shift steering wheel
-FT3 Fuel cell
-Airjack system
-991 Cup power steering system
-991 Cup Rack and Pinion
-KA Motorsport Race exhaust
The total price for the Car ready to go is $142,000.00
It is legal to run in any GT4 series. Also in any club racing scenario as well as Pirelli World Challenge. This is priced well below other FIA GT4 options.
The Porsche GT4 version of the Cayman will be considerably more.
#59
I would say with finding a salvage for VIN and getting a new Tub start to finish about 3 month maximum, most likely less.
If I had everything here ready to probably 6-7 weeks