mclaudio

Hi,

I recently purchased a factory 944 Cup car. Although I notice that most of the posts here are for the later 911-based Cup cars, I hope it's okay to post here under "Porsche Cup Cars". Besides, some of the regular posters in this thread seem to have a good level of knowledge on Porsche factory race (production-based) cars.

Anyway, the car has been partially restored and was being set up for the 944 Cup series. My plan is to continue this route so I can occasionally race with similarly prepared cars. Ultimately, I would like to restore it to its livery/setup when raced in the Rothmans Challenge series in the 80's. This would hopefully allow me to participate in more vintage/tribute type events like Rennsport Reunion.

If anybody has any information on the series/cars and has any photos of the cars (especially interior shots), please let me know.

Also, I'm looking for a Recaro SPG with a Porsche crest. Apparently, this is the seat for that period - late 80's/early 90's.

Thanks!

93 FireHawk 968

Mclaudio,

I'm not confident you'll get much information regarding the 944 Cups on this forum. You're better off going to the 944 or Racing forum. I read this site daily to follow all the Cup stuff, the Cups with the engine in the rear.

You should also join Rennlist to support the forum that will eventually provide a plethora of the info you're searching for.

Good luck!

mclaudio

Thanks for the tip. I did just sign up for a subscription/membership.

ltc

Does PCA have an advocate for 944's? Perhaps they could provide additional direction/assistance?

BTW, why would anyone put an engine any place other than behind the rear wheels ?

Bill Farrell

Mclaudio:
Ron Tietjen has the largest collection of Factory 944 Race Cars.
The PCA CVR link to his email can be found at:
http://www.cvrpca.org/cvrmonly.php?alpha=t

He's a great instructor and Racer.
Bill Farrell
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'03 GT3 Cup
'02 996 TT - Daily Driver

993944S2

Do a search for 944 cup or rothmans cup. There is a very long thread about the number of cars and their current locations. There are a few guys who post to that thread that know everything about those cars.

luiscarlos

Can you send pics of your OEM CUP 944 ?
I have a 944 and I want to race La Carrera Panamericana with this car after mods.

mclaudio

Funny you mentioned rear engines. The first 7 Porsches I owned were 911s (early 911s, SC, 930, Carrera, 964, etc). My first race car was a 69 911T with an S spec engine followed by an SC race car. While I feel fortunate for having experienced such cars, I didn't really realize what I was missing until I started driving Formula Fords/Formula Mazdas and came to appreciate dynamically well-balanced cars. I understand that the 944s are very well-balanced so I'm looking forward to this car project.

Having said this, I also understand that the 996/997 chassis with the latest race suspension technology setup is pretty awesome as well. Someday perhaps...

The car is in the paint shop right now so I have no photos. Besides, the car is a roller with drivetrain partially installed at this point. FWIW, I also posted in the 944 Forum and one of the responses posted a bunch of 944 Cup photos.

[/QUOTE] Do a search for 944 cup or rothmans cup. There is a very long thread about the number of cars and their current locations. There are a few guys who post to that thread that know everything about those cars. [/QUOTE]

I believe you are referring to the Turbo Cup thread. I have seen that thread and it refers to the turbo (951) cars and not the NA cars. I will, however, relook at the thread for potential source of posters with 944 Cup knowledge.


Thanks for the tip, Bill. I will look up Ron at PCA.

HiWind

Here's the list of what made the 944 Turbo cup just that ... Any idea of values today?

944 turbo cup specifications include:

Magnesium racing wheels (8×16F, 9×16R)
Magnesium intake manifold
Magnesium oil pan
928 S4 brakes
Racing brake pads (front pads are 959 part numbers)
Brake cooling kit
Strut tower brace bar over engine
Fiberglass hood with race locks
Exterior power kill switch
Interior power kill switch
Larger higher output turbo unit
Larger sway bars, rear adjustable
High performance engine electronics
Surakrit safety windshield
Safety roll cage
Recaro racing seat
Driver racing harness
Lightweight side mirrors
Special front struts
Special rear shocks with springs
Strengthened rear torsion arms
Heavy duty racing clutch
Quick ratio steering
Higher degree limited slip axle
Strengthened differential and axle gears
Strengthened transmission gears
Close ratio 5th gear
Transmission oil cooler
ABS brakes (with switch)
Stiffened main chassis
Strengthened strut towers
Hard rubber suspension mounts
Lightweight battery
Single engine cooling radiator
Underbody drag reduction panels
Lightweight noise insulation
Delete – Power steering
Delete – Fender liners
Delete – Radio, speakers
Delete – Headlight washers
Delete – Air conditioning
Delete – Power windows
Delete – Rear wiper
Delete – Engine shield
Delete – Undercoating
Delete – Sunroof
Delete – Power seat
Delete – Leather interior
Delete – Rear trunk release
Delete – Power mirrors
Delete – Door storage pockets
Delete – Cassette storage

chfs911

Try here too.

http://www.asarus.com/cup/technique.shtml

Steve113

You sure its a cup and not a Firehawk car?

93 FireHawk 968

The well restored examples with the right documentation do command a premium. Actual value is hard to determine without knowing the condition. All the components noted indicate its an actual 944 Cup.

Did you ever contact Ron Tietjen? He's the "Man" for the 944 Cups.

HiWind

the one I was looking at sold to germany for $80k!

ThomasC2

If it's a 944 like in your avatar it's not what most people refer to as a 944 Cup. Isn't those cars called what the poster says, Porsche Challange? I didn't even know the was a series based on the regular 944. Was that a series for the US-market? Were they as modified as the turbo cup?

Thomas

ThomasC2

Regarding the seat: this company will sell you a Recaro seat with the correct Porsche crest. You'll find the info in their price list.

http://www.southboundtrimmers.com/


Thomas