Will 971.2 tail lights work in a pre facelift 971 Panamera gts?
#46
he said earlier that the wiring wouldn’t work so he had to get an aftermarket solution for that requires the new shape latch/hatch oem but aftermarket taillights.
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mrgraham1906 (07-06-2024)
#48
i m pretty sure you are pulling that out of your *** if you don’t know and don’t read the upgrade for the animation tail light. You had to run the wire to the lun module which the older 971.1 don’t have. Only the 971.2 and then you have to program it to get the animation also, which the 971.1 won’t have it in the bcm2. The only way is to get aftermarket cause all the tail light are program with animation and the way they trigger it is by running one wire to a 12v acc which when the car is unlock the animation start and when the car is off which the acc is off then the animation turn off. So that is why I had to go with aftermarket plus I had to figure out how to wire the European wire as the tail is based on row and not nar. So it is a whole different reason but I m going to get my body shop to align it as I did the install myself. I ain’t a professional and I m doing this as a hobby. Plus most of you guys will never ever do this cause you guys are too scare
#49
i m pretty sure you are pulling that out of your *** if you don’t know and don’t read the upgrade for the animation tail light. You had to run the wire to the lun module which the older 971.1 don’t have. Only the 971.2 and then you have to program it to get the animation also, which the 971.1 won’t have it in the bcm2. The only way is to get aftermarket cause all the tail light are program with animation and the way they trigger it is by running one wire to a 12v acc which when the car is unlock the animation start and when the car is off which the acc is off then the animation turn off. So that is why I had to go with aftermarket plus I had to figure out how to wire the European wire as the tail is based on row and not nar. So it is a whole different reason but I m going to get my body shop to align it as I did the install myself. I ain’t a professional and I m doing this as a hobby. Plus most of you guys will never ever do this cause you guys are too scare
#50
andy relax. There seems to be a language barrier. I’ve been saying you have aftermarket lights because the new shape 971.2 factory lights won’t work. Someone earlier asked if you need a harness to install the aftermarket lights you got to our older cars. I understood the aftermarket market lights plug into our older 971.1 cars without any additional harness. Your posts are so confusing.
it is confusing cause other people responded to it.
so here is the thing. Currently the vendor are working to create a tail light that is similar to the 971.2 for the 971.1 without changing the hatch. But don’t know the eta cause testing is the issue. It can take months or years, who know
the current solution right now is to replace the hatch if you want to go to 971.2 and the kit will come with pigtail to work. They are plug and play for row but for nar if you want the amber you got to run 4 wire one from each tail light and tap into the bcm2 if you wanted the signal and brake light to be separated. Cause the current USA 971.1 don’t have amber signal either and only use the brake like as signal so you got to run it and code the car. Otherwise the kit is plug and play if you are ok to use the brake light as signal.
if you guys have any other question I can answer it but I won’t assume of it. It just took me 3 days to put it together and figure out the wiring so I hated that people are assuming that it is an easy task. Plus there are no documentation out on the internet or even the dealer know how to enable the amber signal tail
#52
it is confusing cause other people responded to it.
so here is the thing. Currently the vendor are working to create a tail light that is similar to the 971.2 for the 971.1 without changing the hatch. But don’t know the eta cause testing is the issue. It can take months or years, who know
the current solution right now is to replace the hatch if you want to go to 971.2 and the kit will come with pigtail to work. They are plug and play for row but for nar if you want the amber you got to run 4 wire one from each tail light and tap into the bcm2 if you wanted the signal and brake light to be separated. Cause the current USA 971.1 don’t have amber signal either and only use the brake like as signal so you got to run it and code the car. Otherwise the kit is plug and play if you are ok to use the brake light as signal.
if you guys have any other question I can answer it but I won’t assume of it. It just took me 3 days to put it together and figure out the wiring so I hated that people are assuming that it is an easy task. Plus there are no documentation out on the internet or even the dealer know how to enable the amber signal tail
so here is the thing. Currently the vendor are working to create a tail light that is similar to the 971.2 for the 971.1 without changing the hatch. But don’t know the eta cause testing is the issue. It can take months or years, who know
the current solution right now is to replace the hatch if you want to go to 971.2 and the kit will come with pigtail to work. They are plug and play for row but for nar if you want the amber you got to run 4 wire one from each tail light and tap into the bcm2 if you wanted the signal and brake light to be separated. Cause the current USA 971.1 don’t have amber signal either and only use the brake like as signal so you got to run it and code the car. Otherwise the kit is plug and play if you are ok to use the brake light as signal.
if you guys have any other question I can answer it but I won’t assume of it. It just took me 3 days to put it together and figure out the wiring so I hated that people are assuming that it is an easy task. Plus there are no documentation out on the internet or even the dealer know how to enable the amber signal tail
#53
it is confusing cause other people responded to it.
so here is the thing. Currently the vendor are working to create a tail light that is similar to the 971.2 for the 971.1 without changing the hatch. But don’t know the eta cause testing is the issue. It can take months or years, who know
the current solution right now is to replace the hatch if you want to go to 971.2 and the kit will come with pigtail to work. They are plug and play for row but for nar if you want the amber you got to run 4 wire one from each tail light and tap into the bcm2 if you wanted the signal and brake light to be separated. Cause the current USA 971.1 don’t have amber signal either and only use the brake like as signal so you got to run it and code the car. Otherwise the kit is plug and play if you are ok to use the brake light as signal.
if you guys have any other question I can answer it but I won’t assume of it. It just took me 3 days to put it together and figure out the wiring so I hated that people are assuming that it is an easy task. Plus there are no documentation out on the internet or even the dealer know how to enable the amber signal tail
so here is the thing. Currently the vendor are working to create a tail light that is similar to the 971.2 for the 971.1 without changing the hatch. But don’t know the eta cause testing is the issue. It can take months or years, who know
the current solution right now is to replace the hatch if you want to go to 971.2 and the kit will come with pigtail to work. They are plug and play for row but for nar if you want the amber you got to run 4 wire one from each tail light and tap into the bcm2 if you wanted the signal and brake light to be separated. Cause the current USA 971.1 don’t have amber signal either and only use the brake like as signal so you got to run it and code the car. Otherwise the kit is plug and play if you are ok to use the brake light as signal.
if you guys have any other question I can answer it but I won’t assume of it. It just took me 3 days to put it together and figure out the wiring so I hated that people are assuming that it is an easy task. Plus there are no documentation out on the internet or even the dealer know how to enable the amber signal tail
#54
Agreed, I definitely would like to see some photos etc to complete my project… I started the process with upgrading my 971.1 tailgate and lights to the 971.2 tailgate/lights, successfully btw. My current issue is the lights are not plug after a test run. Needless to say recommendations are much appreciated. Btw, I did not use after market parts either. Right now my option is change out the pins but if there is an easier method… It would certainly be taken into consideration.
#55
You got to get to make pigtail or you move the pin out. Plus you won’t get the animation with the oem so there is no point going with the oem anyways. You can’t swap out the new bcm2 into the 971.1. Cause you need the pin in the bcm and then use piwis to code in the animated tail light.
here is the document from Porsche so you can read it
https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/20...19336-0001.pdf
best solution is to go with the aftermarket and it comes with orange wire which you just wire all them together into a 12v fuse which is the best solution. Otherwise you won’t get the animated tail light and if you trying to wire the European tail you still need to wire each wire into the bcm. I have document it in a different post
QUOTE=mrgraham1906;19534724]Agreed, I definitely would like to see some photos etc to complete my project… I started the process with upgrading my 971.1 tailgate and lights to the 971.2 tailgate/lights, successfully btw. My current issue is the lights are not plug after a test run. Needless to say recommendations are much appreciated. Btw, I did not use after market parts either. Right now my option is change out the pins but if there is an easier method… It would certainly be taken into consideration.[/QUOTE]
here is the document from Porsche so you can read it
https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/20...19336-0001.pdf
best solution is to go with the aftermarket and it comes with orange wire which you just wire all them together into a 12v fuse which is the best solution. Otherwise you won’t get the animated tail light and if you trying to wire the European tail you still need to wire each wire into the bcm. I have document it in a different post
QUOTE=mrgraham1906;19534724]Agreed, I definitely would like to see some photos etc to complete my project… I started the process with upgrading my 971.1 tailgate and lights to the 971.2 tailgate/lights, successfully btw. My current issue is the lights are not plug after a test run. Needless to say recommendations are much appreciated. Btw, I did not use after market parts either. Right now my option is change out the pins but if there is an easier method… It would certainly be taken into consideration.[/QUOTE]