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I also have a 2018 Macan that requires the 3. I hope to help people in my community and I also plan to rebuild another. I’m excited my PIWIS III arrives tomorrow. I will review after I test it out. I have PSM module arriving Saturday that will need the module replacement procedure
Do you know if it is possible to activate the rear DRL and the LED Matrix headlamps with the PIWIS III?
Do you know if it is possible to activate the rear DRL and the LED Matrix headlamps with the PIWIS III?
activation codes are not included with the tester. You can add them if you have them but this is an online programming function and the dealer must pay Porsche for the options that he installed. When he sends a work order to Porsche he receives the activation codes then enters them into the PIWIS. Now there are some Russians who have hacked porches codes and will sell you an activation code for new options. I haven’t tried them but I did pay $125 for my original activation codes so I code reprogram a pcm and a new clock spring.
Because the prices I got were much higher than that. Where did you get those prices from? There's nothing on eBay for that price where I am in UK. I don't have a Windows PC. I am a MacBook guy. Still open to the idea of PIWIS if the price is right, but don't want to be messing about with circuit boards etc and I'm not a computer whizz kid
In UK, I recommend you have piwis tester 2 in obdexpress.co.uk (item no. SP161-W)
looking for a obd tool for the 971, I have checked obd2tool, maxisys, durametric, autel and bosch.
Can't really figure out which one to get, seems kind of expensive to buy equipment for 2000$ for one car. However, which one do you recommend? Need a pretty simple read fault codes and clear. I've tried with the bosch but it doesn't get in every system
Well I finally made my decision and got an Autel MS906BT. Delighted with it. It can code extensively, has Bluetooth, and you get backup from a legit, worldwide service team if you have any problems. It will grind & recalibrate the EBP too (essential as I’m about to change all the pads & discs front & rear).
I’m sure the Chinese PIWIS II Copy is great, but I read reviews about these sellers which put me off (support issues). Interestingly, I watch lots of YouTube videos and lots of pro mechanics use this scanner, including EMD Automotive Porsche specialists. It cost me £980 and I get one free software update (those are £500 per update, but I won’t be needing any more I reckon). I’ll sleep much more soundly in the knowledge that it’s less likely to fry my DMEs as well.
I understand that this forum is Panamera centric - I got directed here through a google search.
My question is about coverage for the various Porsche models over the years.
I have a 1999 996 and looking or a decent scan tool - I have a BlueDriver which can read / clear most codes but cannot do everything. I live 300 KM from the nearest P car mechanic so wanting to be able to do some work myself whenever possible.
Any suggestion as to what I should be looking at in terms of the PIWIS models and Autel scanners?
I understand that this forum is Panamera centric - I got directed here through a google search.
My question is about coverage for the various Porsche models over the years.
I have a 1999 996 and looking or a decent scan tool - I have a BlueDriver which can read / clear most codes but cannot do everything. I live 300 KM from the nearest P car mechanic so wanting to be able to do some work myself whenever possible.
Any suggestion as to what I should be looking at in terms of the PIWIS models and Autel scanners?
Has anyone done maintenance to PIWIS III? Under Tools->Data, File management, there are all the Log folders.
I'm curious which ones can be deleted to clean things up-from old vehicles stored etc
A PIWIS is the factory developed diagnostic and repair tool. It stands for Porsche Integrated Workshop Information System. Porsche dealer technicians use this tool to perform a multitude of diagnostic and repair functions on your car. There are 3 generations of testers, the original which I believe can handle cars up to the 2014 model year, the PIWIS II which handles cars up to and including the 2017 model year and the current PIWIS III which handles all cars including the 2020 model year. Naturally if your car is under warranty, then you don't need this tool. Let the dealer handle any issues that come up. However, if you have a Porsche which is off warranty, watch out, your dealer charges crazy high hourly rates, mine is currently at $269 an hour, and also charges you parts at full retail. Go to a dealer for a brake job, and he will quote you $4000. You can do it yourself for $600, $900 with factory parts. Need an O2 sensor changed? There are 4 on a Porsche and the dealer will quote you $1200 for one, and then will recommend that they be changed in pairs so now you are looking at $2,400. A quick lookup on Rockauto.com shows you can buy a Bosch OEM O2 sensor for $60. Luckily, the 02 sensor change does not require a PIWIS but the rear rotors do as many have discovered here after doing their brakes. As many of you have noted, you can only lease a PIWIS from Porsche if you are a member of their PPN. Porsche Partner Network. Your local shop can apply to become a member and then pay $18,000 for his tester for the first year and $12,000 a year after that. Very few shops will pay that to repair only one model of car. Luckily our friends in China have cloned the PIWIS. It's a little buggy and wont update since you aren't connected to the PPN but the Chinese have disabled the function which tells the interface tool to check with the factory to see if it is legit. What is it, it's basically a pc with some added software and a special interface between the car and the PC The PIWIS II is a Vista based ( yikes) windows pc The Chinese have improved on it, adding an SSD and some have updated the OS to Windows 7 but I don't recommend that version. The PIWIS III I haven't seen yet so I don't know if it is still a windows pc. Both version have a multimeter function built in but the Chinese version of the PIWIS II doesn't ship with those cables. The PIWIS III has a built in multimeter and oscilloscope and the cables are included. You see the interface online for the PIWIS II for $369 but that doesn't include the necessary software. Buy the entire device for $769 which includes a pc, software, interface and car connect cables. A PIWIS III sells for $1999 down from $6500 last year. Look at this web site as an example of how sophisticated the clone market is. Buy-piwis.com You cant tell the difference between a factory tool and a clone. Now why do you or your mechanic need one? Well here's what you can do without one
Change spark plugs and ignition coils. (The engine module is self calibrating and will learn new parts automatically)
Change front rotors and pads
Change switches,
Change washers, wipers window motors, door locks
Change most engine sensors
Change your own oil (but you wont be able to reset the service interval)
Change differential oil
Change battery (But you wont be able to tell the car you changed it)
Change bulbs
Here are some basic things that you can do that require a PIWIS
Change the rear rotors
Change any suspension parts
Change seat motors
Change any control modules (There are 27 of them) All need to be coded with the VIN of the car
Change the battery and record the change with the gateway module
Reset the service interval
Change the PDK oil
Change headlight components that aren't bulbs
Change clock spring ( will require codes which only the dealer can get but you can buy from the Chinese
Most importantly, as many of you have discovered, it is nearly impossible to diagnose repair issues without one. The Durametric device just doesn't come close to providing the information you need and many of the error code labels it provides are simply wrong and will lead you changing parts that don't need changing. At $769 which is less than 3 hours labor, you can see everything a dealer can see about your car. I have a 2 and I'm going to a 3. If anyone is interested, I can try to post a video of the PIWIS II. It has a simulation mode for training purposes which is helpful. There are 4 programs in the PIWIS, the diagnostic, which is the main program for service, a wiring diagram program, a fault finding program which I haven't found to be useful running offline and the multimeter function.
If you an share one with a buddy or some Porsche meetup groups that would be ideal. My recommendation, don't let anyone do repairs on your car that doesn't have one.
Here are some basic pictures This is a PIWIS II whcih was orignially on a Panasonic toughbook shown hee The menu options This is the unit going into the diagnostic program and it shows a picture of the interface. Parking brake module extended Identications. This is where you can change the VIN on a used part or add it for a new part
I have a question. I have a Porsche Taycan 2020 and today I accidentally changed the tyres on the pcm from summer to winter. Straight away I changed it back but the yellow light came on and said it would measure tyre pressure above 25km. Unfortunately I have been driving it a lot since then and it has failed to measure. It keeps on measuring...
I have a Porsche dealership in pakistan but unfortunately they have been barred by Porsche worldwide for some wrong activities. They would probably have a piwis 2 .
now techincal data by Porsche suggests to do this. Do you think a piwis 2 which would probably be not online with the Porsche servers be able to reset the yellow light and tpm starts working
Does the PIWIS report all works done to the car in the past or only procedures and works carried out officially by Porsche? For eg. if works have been done by a workshop not officially from Porsche, would this reflect on the PIWIS?
03-16-2020, 10:59 PM
Where to buy a Piwis 3 and cost ?
