Bossing

On the track with same driver... GT4 > GT350/R but in fairness they are competitively close in terms of lap times.

While the GT4 is outgunned powerwise, the GT350 is much more heavier and harder to distribute weight & balance at its extremes compared to the GT4. This is where the saying of surgical precision of the GT4 comes into play.

BTW derstig... I backup my opinion because I know both cars quite well, very well.

Para82

I did 22 track events in a Boss 302 Laguna Seca - fantastic car but it's no GT350.

DerStig

I dont know how GT4 is > GT350/R. I am not buying that.

R lapped nurburgring faster than GT3. That is 12-15 seconds faster than GT4. It also traps 5 mph more, and brakes much better. Yes its heavier. Yes its longer.

Waxer

It's no GT350, true.... but a GT350 is no Boss 302. I prefer the Boss. There are still many that do.

Put 305's on a Boss and if you want some headers and tune. You'll be surprised. Delta pretty much closed.

neanicu

It's a nice Ford if you can get past the cheap looking interior,the dump truck seating position and the extra weight you're lugging around.
The best part is : you can buy parts from your local Autozone and the pickup drivers think you're cool.

stuntman

The GT350R is on par with a GT3 (or within a second depending on the track). I think the Cayman GT4 is that close in terms of performance and Randy Post likes the 350R more than the GT4.

A Boss with the same 305/315 PSC2s will not be nearly as fast as a 350R, even with headers & a tune. The chassis, suspension, brakes, and aero is nowhere near as good.

Waxer

Lets be fair too. For the $$$ its a hell of a performer. Just as the Boss was in '12.

Never forget picking up our Shelby GT at the body shop after an abrupt introduction with to tire wall in the heel of the boot at Watkins Glen. Our repair bill was $8000.00. A GT3 RS local to me made friends with the same tire wall that weekend with similar damage except he has PCCB's. One rotor alone was $10,000.00. He was forced to replace both before he even got to his other repairs.

Definite advantages to tracking a GT350 or a Boss over a Porsche. Both are very capable track cars and with some mods VERY capable.

neanicu

I like the recipe : NA great sounding V8 and a manual box. Otherwise,I have sat in it and it's large. Sorry,it's too heavy. I've described the interior and seating position perfectly. I'd take a Miata over the 350 on the road or track any day,if we're talking value...

DerStig

Sound.

Do you understand? All those other cars sound fairly less aggressive. Dont feel like madness on wheels. An R with no resonators has no competition. GT4 doesnt sound amazing. I'd call it boring and tame. GT3 sounds nothing like GT4. I heard them both. GT4 doesnt have a head turner sound. Gt3 and gt350 both do. Thats the most important aspect of a car for me - audial feedback

neanicu

Sound,colors,shape,build quality etc...are all subjective. And we're all different...and that's a good thing.

lumber

I'd drive my rs any day over the mustang. So maybe it's an unfair comparison in my garage.

That being said, the steering wheel on the mustang is spongy and soft. And the clutch feel is odd. And then there's all that plastic....sound of that fpc is good but cmon.

I had two of them, I tried to fall in love with it. I would go as far as saying the new zo6 I had was a cooler car. And I don't like vettes. 😮

Suitcase

RL is a Porsche, that's right, PORSCHE blog site. There is no equal. And we're almost all unified as Porsche GT Department fanatics. Is the GT4 faster, better than a Shelby GT 350? Is an R Code Mustang faster than a GT3 RS on the Nurburgring? I think we all "get" the trim standard and weight issue. Forget money. With the Shelby GT350 and R Code we actually consider and argue over which we would prefer. This is great stuff. An American engineered and manufactured (less C/F wheels) Shelby Mustang is being talked about in the same conversation with some of the greatest and most capable sports cars ever.

Reinvigorating US Manufacturing and competing at the highest level is important to all of us. I'm not saying we shouldn't import anything. And I'm not giving up my long history as Porsche customer. But as an American we don't need to import everything.

Waxer

More less the same conversations taking place with the Boss back in '012.

The Boss in '012 was besting the Audi R8 and M3 at Laguna Seca. Nipping at the heals of GT3s. All for $50K.

All Mfg's have upped the performance ante'. All incremental. Leaving room for future "improvements" and marketing.

An R is a Track Pack with a little more aero, CF wheels, bigger tires and stiffer settings on the suspension. Same drive line. Period.

If the R pumped out more power and had drive line improvements that's a different animal.

An R wouldn't see were an 991 RS had gone on most tracks.

neanicu

Are we biased? Perhaps,but I have held 88 pages from telling my opinion about this car.

American manufacturing? Sounds good. Unfortunately,as with everything else,Motorcraft makes parts all over the World,including China and Mexico...

stuntman

Probably not, but it's as fast as a GT3 for ~1/3 the price.