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Old Jul 30, 2013 | 08:53 PM
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Well, we each have our opinions. There is a market for diesels here primarily because of VW. To me, the reason for the diesel market expanding is simple: better mileage without sacrificing the fun factor. There is a great series of articles on this subject in the New York Times auto section...about two weeks back.

There are, of course, the enthusiasts who would crave a V8 TDI here. And it would be great but methinks there will other Diesel engines by the end of the decade that will be closer to the V8 TDI in terms of performance and will be embraced by VAG and Porsche here.
VW has indeed been the main one to keep the flame alive all these years. Diesels are growing in popularity, but they still aren't really a big chunk of the market here (if you discount the heavy duty trucks and commercial vehicles).

I agree that the V8 TDI might not be a V8 by the time it gets here. My reall point is that I believes it (or its replacement) will come over.

You could also try to limit the V8 gas engines to enthusiasts, but Porsche has done a good job selling those
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Old Jul 30, 2013 | 09:33 PM
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not so sure VAG is responsible for keeping D alive here I a pretty sure its more to do with MB who have fantastic engines
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Old Jul 30, 2013 | 10:13 PM
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not so sure VAG is responsible for keeping D alive here I a pretty sure its more to do with MB who have fantastic engines
Mercedes the reason? Not a chance. By volume alone, it is VW in the States and across just about every model. It's 1 in 5 VWs sold here that are TDIs and they're pushing for 30%. Overall, the Germans, of course, are leading the pack and now we have the Jeep CRD again and the Chevy Cruze diesel. Not saying VAG has a better diesel than Mercedes but definitely more volume.

Interestingly, BMW/VAG/Merc use the Bosch AdBlue system. In Illinois, I think Merc stop selling diesels because of a state mandate to use B20...I use a place with no bio-diesel and another with B5 max.
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Old Jul 31, 2013 | 01:27 PM
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after filling our a service survey i get this:

"Please indicate if you own any of the following vehicles (Acura RDX, Audi Q5, BMW X3, Cadillac SRX, Infiniti EX, Mercedes-Benz GLK, Land Rover Range Rover Evoque or Range Rover Sport, Volvo XC60) "


So the Macan Marketing begins...
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Old Jul 31, 2013 | 02:42 PM
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More pictures of the Macan

http://www.carscoops.com/2013/07/sco...28CARSCOOPS%29

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Old Jul 31, 2013 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by fincher
Mercedes the reason? Not a chance. By volume alone, it is VW in the States and across just about every model. It's 1 in 5 VWs sold here that are TDIs and they're pushing for 30%. Overall, the Germans, of course, are leading the pack and now we have the Jeep CRD again and the Chevy Cruze diesel. Not saying VAG has a better diesel than Mercedes but definitely more volume.

Interestingly, BMW/VAG/Merc use the Bosch AdBlue system. In Illinois, I think Merc stop selling diesels because of a state mandate to use B20...I use a place with no bio-diesel and another with B5 max.
Not here, over the last 20 years have seen more MB diesels than VW. My dealer did not even stock them when they were available.
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Old Jul 31, 2013 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by kosmo
after filling our a service survey i get this:

"Please indicate if you own any of the following vehicles (Acura RDX, Audi Q5, BMW X3, Cadillac SRX, Infiniti EX, Mercedes-Benz GLK, Land Rover Range Rover Evoque or Range Rover Sport, Volvo XC60) "


So the Macan Marketing begins...
Could be worse coule have included the Arcadia and the Kia's
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Old Jul 31, 2013 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Suzy991
Thanks for sharing... these new photos have me intrigued.
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Old Jul 31, 2013 | 06:57 PM
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Bring the diesel here and I'm in.
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Old Jul 31, 2013 | 07:03 PM
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I also want one. Next year I will trade in my Q5. Keeping my fingers crossed that the most powerful diesel is available at that time.

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Old Jul 31, 2013 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Suzy991
thanks for sharing

Some clever camouflage.. I saw some renders that supposedly showed the rear tail lamp design and its nothing like what the camo suggests.

Anyhow on that note, I absolutely want one!
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Old Jul 31, 2013 | 09:44 PM
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Wonder how much piglet canibalizes pig sales.
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Old Jul 31, 2013 | 10:43 PM
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It will to some degree for sure but it will bring in first-time Porsche buyers. The Macan might be my first Porsche unless I can find a good, lightly used CD with what I want.
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Old Jul 31, 2013 | 10:44 PM
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I think its going to be some years before the CD's come down to earth. Used prices are not worth the fuel savings relative to how little they have depreciated from new yet.
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Old Jul 31, 2013 | 10:51 PM
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Yeah, I can get a used CD with 100k warranty. There are two near me and I've driven them. They're asking $65-66k, so I figure I can get for a bit less. But, I really want Pano and 19s or 20s (can be easily changed). Not too particular on color as long as interior is black.

So, you're probably right. Other issue for me is I drive 20k a year so I definitely want the 100k warranty.
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