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Old 05-08-2024, 07:50 AM
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Hi all. I’m new here and have been reading about the Macan coding features. I changed my steering wheel and started to hear a click sound while slightly turning from within the steering column and thought it was the wheel so I took it back off and noticed it was coming from the Clock Spring. I checked it and heard the tick when moving it left and right, but seemed fine, so turned it manually left and right all the way to the end point and felt the ribbon tension which seems it’s still internally connected and to wind the cable and see if that might help and the tick went away. So I put the wheel back together and started getting a boat load of errors, so I went into a newly purchased Launch X431 to clear codes. Notice many would not clear at all so I started playing with “online programming” from within the tool for the modules that seem to be having problem hoping it would reset them, and like an idiot just let the tool download and update each of these modules with error.

Well now I am not sure it is the programming that I overwrote or the clock spring or steering control and what to do. I want to start with coding and see if that may have caused on override to the ECU as I’m not sure what the tool did (or I did) and go from there.

i know there are a few expert on this forum with the X431 and have attached the list of codes. Hoping someone here can guide me before putting my wheel back on and taking it to the dealer. I appreciate your help as my car is inoperable.




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There is no one here that can help? I’m guessing my clock spring either needs replacement or reprogramming.


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Hi all. I’m new here and have been reading about the Macan coding features. I changed my steering wheel and started to hear a click sound while slightly turning from within the steering column and thought it was the wheel so I took it back off and noticed it was coming from the Clock Spring. I checked it and heard the tick when moving it left and right, but seemed fine, so turned it manually left and right all the way to the end point and felt the ribbon tension which seems it’s still internally connected and to wind the cable and see if that might help and the tick went away. So I put the wheel back together and started getting a boat load of errors, so I went into a newly purchased Launch X431 to clear codes. Notice many would not clear at all so I started playing with “online programming” from within the tool for the modules that seem to be having problem hoping it would reset them, and like an idiot just let the tool download and update each of these modules with error.

Well now I am not sure it is the programming that I overwrote or the clock spring or steering control and what to do. I want to start with coding and see if that may have caused on override to the ECU as I’m not sure what the tool did (or I did) and go from there.

i know there are a few expert on this forum with the X431 and have attached the list of codes. Hoping someone here can guide me before putting my wheel back on and taking it to the dealer. I appreciate your help as my car is inoperable.




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Jack
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I would highly recommend hooking the car up to PIWIS and recoding all of the modules from there. Then diagnose the clock spring issue. My .2 cents.

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yea that would be great but I don’t own a PIWIS I have the Launch X431. Also, how can I recode ALL of the modules? Is there a procedure somewhere I can follow? I need to do this before I go spend on a new clock spring and still find I’m hitting a wall since it will need to be programmed also.

hope someone can help guide me here. I’ll throw a few bucks at someone to walk me through this, I’m also near Miami if anyone is near that can help. Thanks.

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I would highly recommend hooking the car up to PIWIS and recoding all of the modules from there. Then diagnose the clock spring issue. My .2 cents.

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I would find an Indy shop that has PIWIS. I know a couple in Palm Beach and maybe in Broward you can look at Foreign Affairs, TuneRS, KMW, or Davie Motorsport. I'm sure there are a few in Miami-Dade.

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thanks for sharing. Unfortunately two of the three shops you sent me have told me that based on the report I shared with them (same as the one in my original post), that only the dealer can reprogram due to some tokens or something specific to the software not being available to third-party for cars post 2015. if anyone else can clarify or potentially help personally, I would be forever grateful and will pay you, want to avoid going to a dealer and be told I need 50 components replaced 🙃

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I would find an Indy shop that has PIWIS. I know a couple in Palm Beach and maybe in Broward you can look at Foreign Affairs, TuneRS, KMW, or Davie Motorsport. I'm sure there are a few in Miami-Dade.

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Originally Posted by jfagundo
thanks for sharing. Unfortunately two of the three shops you sent me have told me that based on the report I shared with them (same as the one in my original post), that only the dealer can reprogram due to some tokens or something specific to the software not being available to third-party for cars post 2015. if anyone else can clarify or potentially help personally, I would be forever grateful and will pay you, want to avoid going to a dealer and be told I need 50 components replaced 🙃
Did those shops confirm they had PIWIS?
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No. They claim to have much larger computers costing over 20k 🤔. I just spoke to the other 2 shops, all which were recommended by @BMinSFL . One just told me the network may have been overwritten and only the dealer can resolve it.

seems the code is reserved to dealers only to reset or reprogram ECU to car specs and put it back to factory settings which makes no darn sense other than a financial gain for the dealers to have this level of control.

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Did those shops confirm they had PIWIS?

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Originally Posted by jfagundo
No. They claim to have much larger computers costing over 20k 🤔. I just spoke to the other 2 shops, all which were recommended by @BMinSFL . One just told me the network may have been overwritten and only the dealer can resolve it.

seems the code is reserved to dealers only to reset or reprogram ECU to car specs and put it back to factory settings which makes no darn sense other than a financial gain for the dealers to have this level of control.
Try Above and Beyond Performance in West Palm Beach. They have PIWIS and are Porsche tuning specialists.

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no go, spent about 30 mins on cal with Brian and he doesn’t handle coding specially because the Piwis3 is required to be connected to Porche network and majority of the shops don’t pay the $5k monthly fee to do it so I’m out of options. Have to eat it and go to the dealer 😡

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Try Above and Beyond Performance in West Palm Beach. They have PIWIS and are Porsche tuning specialists.
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Originally Posted by jfagundo

seems the code is reserved to dealers only to reset or reprogram ECU to car specs and put it back to factory settings which makes no darn sense other than a financial gain for the dealers to have this level of control.
This is a perfect example as to why they do it. To prevent people doing things they have no background in.

as everyone has told you, PIWIS. Another prime example when you go the cheap route. Time to pay the piper

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Originally Posted by jfagundo
no go, spent about 30 mins on cal with Brian and he doesn’t handle coding specially because the Piwis3 is required to be connected to Porche network and majority of the shops don’t pay the $5k monthly fee to do it so I’m out of options. Have to eat it and go to the dealer 😡
Try Excell Racing in East Boca: https://excellrace.com

They have PIWIS currently connected to the network, I spoke with Rob and he confirmed.
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If you can get hold of a copy of PIWIS {check users in your neck of the woods}, contact @rnlst_log . I dumped my Launch a couple of years ago. GL

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Actually they do it to make money. The Right to Repair movement is real and more people need to get involved.
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Yeah, but a real man mechanic's got to know his limitations when to back off.

My guess is, unbricking this car is going to require a priest, not a PIWIS.



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