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I have come to the decision that a Macan GTS will be the first new P-car. I'm excited about the customization but no the ordering/dealership process! If you're curious here is my rater boring but ideal spec.
As I have come to find out it seems that Porsche will possibly be updating the 2022 Macan to get the new central console + electronics upgrades (just like the 911 & Cayenne). I have mixed feelings about the new 2022 interior style:
- First off, piano black is a PITA to keep clean and some of the controls seem non-intuitive in the new gen systems. At first glance I much prefer the current-gen electronics system (I also own a 981 GT4).
+ However, knowing a little about the ins and outs of the computer hardware ecosystem I'll likely want to be on the latest hardware system if there's any hope in improvements to the software (outside of bug fixes).
? After owning a latest-gen Volvo suv, a good ACC-system with lane keep-assist is a must. Are my expectations realistic to expect the quality of the Tesla ACC (w/o Autopilot)? If not, is there a generational leap between cars with the latest gen ACC (taycan) vs. the current-gen Macan?
Lastly, when do you think I should start contacting a dealer regarding putting the order in? (2021 or 2022)
Thanks in advance!
pic of supposed new center console:
Last edited by A Nonce; 02-10-2021 at 06:25 PM.
Reason: clarity + pic
The way I figure is that buttons are great and they work. Just because Porsche decides to replace them with shiny piano black backlit touch sensitive “areas” doesn’t mean it’s any better or higher tech. Basically, replacing the center console with that won’t add any tech or functionality you otherwise wouldn’t have before. It’s just.... shinier? Which I can’t stand.
Therefore, I’ve concluded I’d like to get one of the last Macans with real buttons and hold onto it as long as I can. It’s possible that may be a 2022 model as production delays seem to be happening everywhere.
Then perhaps one day manufacturers will wake up to ergonomics. If the future is all a big touchscreen with swiping and menus while your drive, then it’s going to be a long one for me and many people I know.
I’m in a similar boat as you.
...Just because Porsche decides to replace them with shiny piano black backlit touch sensitive “areas” doesn’t mean it’s any better or higher tech. Basically, replacing the center console with that won’t add any tech or functionality you otherwise wouldn’t have before. It’s just.... shinier?...
Agreed, I know the physical buttons do look cluttered and that the touch areas seems like a cleaner aesthetic. But I'm not sure that aesthetic holds up in the real world where dust, grime, coffee and micro-scratches 😱 exist. I can get this type of design to be warranted on a aspirational car like a 911 or even a Taycan but Macans/Cayennes are supposed to used in the real world!
Anyway, a lot of this is arm chair posturing/complaining. Unsure if anyone here has had a Cayenne/Taycan/911 with the new dash and can show some real world usage... I'm guessing it ain't pretty but I'll keep a open mind. Any positives to the new center console? There has to be something...
As anecdotal evidence that the design won't stand the test of time, I present to you a Audi A8 loner I was in recently...
Last edited by A Nonce; 02-10-2021 at 06:41 PM.
Reason: clarity + pic
The updated console and PCM is a significant upgrade. Coming from a 958 cayenne into a 9y0 cayenne it is night and day, despite the piano black trim. Even in the 992 forum the console update is a huge upgrade.
I personally think you should wait for the MY22, because you will feel like you are driving a 5 year old model with a MY21
I agree that the infotainement system makes a huge difference to the perception of the car. However, I do believe the current gen Macan seems to have the same widescreen PCM as the 2022 model minus the center console. I could be wrong however... Unsure if the Cayenne went through a similar transition. Current Gen Macan
Last edited by A Nonce; 02-10-2021 at 08:44 PM.
Reason: clarity
The updated console and PCM is a significant upgrade. Coming from a 958 cayenne into a 9y0 cayenne it is night and day, despite the piano black trim. Even in the 992 forum the console update is a huge upgrade.
I personally think you should wait for the MY22, because you will feel like you are driving a 5 year old model with a MY21
Current Macan = 992-style PCM with 9x1-style console design. Best of both worlds.
Given (IMHO) that Porsche does such a crappy job with the tech in otherwise magnificent vehicles, I'm not sure I'd count on the "latest & greatest" being anywhere close to what is available from manufactures who sell tech as one of the primary features of their cars. Anyone who buys a Porsche thinking they're going to get state of the art or better tech features will be sadly disappointed. With the 2021 version you know exactly what (and what not) you're getting. If you just gotta have the latest & greatest, hold off until 2022, pay your money and take your chances! Of course you could always wait until the 2022 is announced/finalized and then either order new if it suits you or look for a 2020 coming off lease as a CPO. You may not get the exact configuration you would if you ordered new but you can generally get very close and price wise, 2 yr lease expirations seem to be the sweet spot with respect to price vs mileage.
They gave me a Panamara loaner and all the micro scratches and smudges on the piano black center console looked absolutely horrible. Such a turn off. No thanks. Can’t wait until this trend goes away.
My wife drives a 2019 Cayenne S. I drive a 2021 Macan GTS. I prefer the controls/buttons of my GTS. My wife does not care. She only uses two buttons on the Cayenne center console: Sport and seat heating. She does not have to look at the center console to hit those buttons (she says).
I will say that I had clear PPF applied to the Cayenne's console. Dogs ride in her car, and I didn't want that thing getting scratched up.
I also use screen protectors for the center PCM screens in both cars (Amazon).
I dont follow P's MY releases / changeovers that closely so can someone advise when we might see news on the 2022's?
I think I read elsewhere that news begins to trickle out in April with mid summer for ordering and fulfillment begining Sept/Oct?
thanks
They gave me a Panamara loaner and all the micro scratches and smudges on the piano black center console looked absolutely horrible. Such a turn off. No thanks. Can’t wait until this trend goes away.
I showed my wife the updated console in the Cayenne and gave her the option to wait for a '22 Macan or take a '21. She opted for a '21 because she likes the buttons better. It does look dated, though, between the buttons and gauge cluster. Other than newer PCMs, the functionally in P-cars have been the same for a while. We spent some time with a Taycan and although all the controls look slick, it had about the same functionality as my '21 718 and '21 Macan. Other than the PCM, even my '15 991 was the virtually the same functionally.
As to the OP's question about ACC and lane keep, I find the ACC in Porsche to be on par with other brands I've had. One thing I like is that it gives a decent amount of gas to speed up. I've had other brands of cars where I felt like I needed to step on the accelerator because the car was accelerating much slower on ACC than the traffic around me. I also didn't notice a difference between the ACC in the Taycan or my Macan/718. As for lane keep assist, I wonder if the '22 Macan will add Innodrive or true lane keep for highway driving (I forget what Porsche calls the lane keep part). The current Macan just has it for lane departure purposes, not for keeping you centered in the lane to make cruising easier. I had that feature in my last non-Porsche car and liked it...I can live without it, but it was nice on the highway.
I dont follow P's MY releases / changeovers that closely so can someone advise when we might see news on the 2022's?
I think I read elsewhere that news begins to trickle out in April with mid summer for ordering and fulfillment beginning Sept/Oct?
thanks
Dropped by the dealer yesterday for a chat and asked about any "news"....none but my SA speculated (dont they all) that its possible allocations will be further delayed this year due to ongoing production issues that we've been reading about. His speculation is that 2022's might not come towards 4th Q2021 vs 3rd as the company is having such an issue keeping current calendar year orders filled.
Who knows but the more I wait the sooner I'll likely pull trigger on a sitting 2021 which is what I know PNA they really wants me to do!!
We just pulled the trigger on the 2021 Macan GTS for my wife. She too was not enamored with the smooth/slick look and much preferred the buttons on the current version. I'm not a big fan of buying newly released cars the first year they are out either. Add to that a 7% discount if you can find one you like off the lot and its a decent deal. We had our local dealer do a dealer trade for the exact one she wanted, so I agreed to a 5% discount to allow them to cover the expense of bringing it over. So far she loves the car which is really all that matters. This is our first Porsche ever, so I hope it turns out to be reasonably reliable and a good car.