718 GT4?
#5941
Geneva is next week so we'll see if they reveal the car.
#5943
#5944
Burning Brakes
...like I said if Porsche didn't announce the GT4 already online they likely won't debut it at the Geneva show. Typically they announce online prior to the show, just like Ferrari just did
#5945
Three Wheelin'
Yes but they haven't announced anything so that means they just may not have made the announcement yet! Personally I don't think it'll be there. My guess is Taycan.
#5946
Also how do we know that the GT4 CS wasn't considered the online 'preview'? (Not saying this is correct)
Taycan would be a nice reveal too - hopefully at least one of these two
#5947
I heard from my dealer that Porsche plans on building many more Gt4s and Spyders this go around. Similar to the increase in GT builds. He implied that in 2020 they may not build any base 718s. They know where the money is and those that want a car will likely be able to get one. Of course expect a healthy price increase.
#5949
Burning Brakes
I hope it'll be there just like everyone here! I remember when cj posted that there is a press embargo until Geneva. Perhaps Porsche changed the plans. Well see
#5952
Out of all the 991 & 981 GT cars how many have failed so far? If you hit a pothole something will brake, yes it shouldn't be the car, but rather just the tire, wheel or suspension, but then again, we also want them to make these cars as light as possible,so they trim weight where they can, go to aluminum cast parts rather than steel forgings. Maybe in retrospect the wrong place to save a few pounds, but not always something that shows up in testing or on the computer simulation. Live and learn.
To bring the subject back on topic, someone just posted in the strut tower failure thread that the 718's have the same part numbers on the strut towers as the 981/991. So does that mean the GT4 will have the same issue? Maybe that is why things are moving a bit slower with the release of the GT4?
#5953
Three Wheelin'
I wasn't excusing the issue, but coming from an e46 M3 (sub frame issue), e90 M3 (rod bearing issue), wife's Acura MDX (oil consumption issue just announced and real), Golf GTI fuel and water pump issues, I just realize that there is always something and the internet blows these issues way out of proportion. Yes, these are rather big $ items, but should both be covered by warranty or insurance.
Out of all the 991 & 981 GT cars how many have failed so far? If you hit a pothole something will brake, yes it shouldn't be the car, but rather just the tire, wheel or suspension, but then again, we also want them to make these cars as light as possible,so they trim weight where they can, go to aluminum cast parts rather than steel forgings. Maybe in retrospect the wrong place to save a few pounds, but not always something that shows up in testing or on the computer simulation. Live and learn.
Sorry, hard to avoid it when you want to respond to posts that are in the "wrong" thread.
To bring the subject back on topic, someone just posted in the strut tower failure thread that the 718's have the same part numbers on the strut towers as the 981/991. So does that mean the GT4 will have the same issue? Maybe that is why things are moving a bit slower with the release of the GT4?
Out of all the 991 & 981 GT cars how many have failed so far? If you hit a pothole something will brake, yes it shouldn't be the car, but rather just the tire, wheel or suspension, but then again, we also want them to make these cars as light as possible,so they trim weight where they can, go to aluminum cast parts rather than steel forgings. Maybe in retrospect the wrong place to save a few pounds, but not always something that shows up in testing or on the computer simulation. Live and learn.
Sorry, hard to avoid it when you want to respond to posts that are in the "wrong" thread.
To bring the subject back on topic, someone just posted in the strut tower failure thread that the 718's have the same part numbers on the strut towers as the 981/991. So does that mean the GT4 will have the same issue? Maybe that is why things are moving a bit slower with the release of the GT4?
#5954
Rennlist Member
Agree, e46 had subframe issues, vanos issues, and front strut mount issues and my E28M5 had the plastic timing chain guides that just disintegrate - replacing all 24 valves added up real fast. There is always something with high performance cars. I don't think that Porsche has done anything for the 718 GT4. They didn't for the 991.2 (though they did for the 992) and the 718 shell is already in production so there's little chance they are going to change it. The 20" wheels are needed to clear the PCCBs, the only thing they could do is change the suspension somehow for a little more compliance/travel. Will be interesting to see how the part numbers there change if at all....
I just hope they revise the casting to strengthen it for the new 718 GT cars.
#5955
People on this thread are gonna flame me bc I am always bringing up market / pricing...but I am gonna do it anyway. I searched for 2016 Caymans on Cargurus. Of the 132 for sale, 71 (!!) were GT4s. That is 54%. Inventory seems a bit heavy. People are still reaching for prices but feels like that has to correct imminently.