718 GT4?
#3841
The massive flaw in Harris' argument is his simplistic leap of faith that Bangle was a genius because people copied him. Rather, that's the problem with design these days, it's all derivative, with everyone copying everyone else and nobody taking any risk whatsoever. It's particularly bad in the car industry, but it seems to be everywhere. It doesn't make his work any less awful. Bangle not only destroyed BMW's design philosophy, he let a genie out of the bottle that led to any number of awful copycat designs, particularly among the Japanese manufacturers. I'd love to see more manufacturers take risks rather than revert to the mean, especially when the mean they're reverting to is all kinds of Emperor's New Clothes awful that it's impact can be felt for such a long time.
Last edited by Archimedes; 10-30-2018 at 10:12 PM.
#3843
#3844
Three Wheelin'
The massive flaw in Harris' argument is his simplistic leap of faith that Bangle was a genius because people copied him. Rather, that's the problem with design these days, it's all derivative, with everyone copying everyone else and nobody taking any risk whatsoever. It's particularly bad in the car industry, but it seems to be everywhere. It doesn't make his work any less awful. Bangle not only destroyed BMW's design philosophy, he let a genie out of the bottle that led to any number of awful copycat designs, particularly among the Japanese manufacturers. I'd love to see more manufacturers take risks rather than revert to the mean, especially because when the mean they're reverting to is all kinds of Emperor's New Clothes awful that it's impact can be felt for such a long time.
OTOH, I do like some of the design elements of the 718...
#3845
I would prefer NA for the engine and that is what it is supposed to be. Though I have to say, while I would hate a turbo 4 in those cars, the turbo 6 would be a hell of an engine.. especially from a mod standpoint... I would probably still buy it with that engine...
I just don't see it happening though.
#3847
Rennlist Member
This may be old news, while speaking with the sales manager yesterday he stated Q1 2020 for North American delivery of the road car.
Don’t shoot the messenger
Don’t shoot the messenger
#3848
Rennlist Member
looks like a pretty complete car, for still being 13-15 months out....Q1 2020 seems very pessimistic.
#3849
Originally Posted by Ksdaoski
looks like a pretty complete car, for still being 13-15 months out....Q1 2020 seems very pessimistic.
#3850
Rennlist Member
#3851
Originally Posted by JIMMY JAMES
5 minute video...!
#3852
Rennlist Member
At this point only a select few know what’s actually going to happen. Dealers usually know very little to nothing about unreleased cars. The guys who race for Porsche on here and their cleaning ladies typically have the best info.
#3853
Burning Brakes
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At this point only a select few know what’s actually going to happen. Dealers usually know very little to nothing about unreleased cars. The guys who race for Porsche on here and their cleaning ladies typically have the best info.[/QUOTE]
I'm looking forward to the la show. Hopefully the configurator will open shortly after the announcement
At this point only a select few know what’s actually going to happen. Dealers usually know very little to nothing about unreleased cars. The guys who race for Porsche on here and their cleaning ladies typically have the best info.
I'm looking forward to the la show. Hopefully the configurator will open shortly after the announcement
#3854
Burning Brakes
I've also been told to not expect one in my garage til Q4 2019 at the earliest. If your dealer said to expect your car in early 2020, that seems about right. If the GT4 is announced in Geneva which is in March, the initial deliveries will be in Q2, with many of them being delivered over the next year.
#3855
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I would expect to see the first street cars being available as 2019 models as early as March/April for USA. Earlier for Europe.
2022 for the GT4 after that. Assuming they are replaced every 3 years.
2022 for the GT4 after that. Assuming they are replaced every 3 years.