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12-13-2016, 02:39 PM
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Was the repair you describe done by a Porsche approved body repair shop or in independent shop? I think the Porsche approved status is mainly about warranty because any reputable body shop will not do a repair in a way that compromises crash safety.
12-13-2016, 03:38 PM
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My repair was carried out through a Porsche Approved bodyshop, the actual Porsche dealership owns the bodyshop, every thing was checked on the Jig, all fine, and no signs of Tub Damage, it seems this part is a sacrificial part to prevent chassis damage, although the bonnet also takes a pounding.
They also replaced all components on that side Wishbone etc, plus the Steering rack as a matter of routine
They also replaced all components on that side Wishbone etc, plus the Steering rack as a matter of routine
Can you share with us what the approximate cost of the repair was, knowing that there was (from what you describe) more damage to your car than to Joe Weinstein's?
12-14-2016, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Window Cleaner
£20k
Oooouch.
12-14-2016, 11:48 AM
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That will use up a bit of goodwill with your insurance company.
12-14-2016, 01:49 PM
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PNA says 'we are at an impasse' regarding the cause, and decline to cover.
They say there is damage to the lower control arm. I will go see that.
They say there is damage to the lower control arm. I will go see that.
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12-14-2016, 03:06 PM
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Hang in there. This sucks.
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12-14-2016, 04:31 PM
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I would speak with an attorney if I were you. You may in fact decide, based on what you learn during your consultation, that litigating would likely be ineffective, or not worth your time or money, but you may also decide the opposite. It should not cost that much to speak with an attorney with the requisite expertise to get the info you need to make that decision. I would add that, in many cases, a letter or a call from an attorney is enough to cause a potential defendant to address a client's concerns in an acceptable way without resorting to litigation at all. While I do not practice in this area, I am an attorney, and I am speaking from my own experience.
12-14-2016, 05:45 PM
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I don't know what state you are in, but if the bar in your state offers lists of attorneys who practice in specific practice areas, you could look at those. You would probably want to look at firms that handle consumer or warranty issues. Your local district attorney's office may also have a consumer protection unit that may be willing to help. You could also just start calling law firms that provide civil litigation services in your area and ask for a referral. Best of luck.
12-14-2016, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe Weinstein
What would I google to find an appropriate lawyer?
12-14-2016, 08:43 PM
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This would normally be my inclination as well since in my view, part of the value I receive in exchange for paying insurance premiums is that I get my car fixed immediately and then THEY deal with any logistics involved for deciding who ultimately pays for what rather than having to spend my own time determining that and recovering funds where appropriate -- but I don't know if that works when the insurance carrier's position is that the damage should be handled via warranty claim. Does anybody have any actual experience with an insurance company paying to get their car fixed and then subrogating the manufacturer?
Still, this really sucks. I would love to ask PCNA right now, "Ok, you think this is an insurance claim. So your position is that the reason several GT4 owners are experiencing this issue isn't that there's either a production or design problem with this car or at least some examples of it, but rather that the same type of unfortunate road hazard just happened to befall all of them in relatively quick succession, and this despite the cars being geographically distant from each other. That passes your sniff test?"
Still, this really sucks. I would love to ask PCNA right now, "Ok, you think this is an insurance claim. So your position is that the reason several GT4 owners are experiencing this issue isn't that there's either a production or design problem with this car or at least some examples of it, but rather that the same type of unfortunate road hazard just happened to befall all of them in relatively quick succession, and this despite the cars being geographically distant from each other. That passes your sniff test?"
12-14-2016, 10:28 PM
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This would normally be my inclination as well since in my view, part of the value I receive in exchange for paying insurance premiums is that I get my car fixed immediately and then THEY deal with any logistics involved for deciding who ultimately pays for what rather than having to spend my own time determining that and recovering funds where appropriate -- but I don't know if that works when the insurance carrier's position is that the damage should be handled via warranty claim. Does anybody have any actual experience with an insurance company paying to get their car fixed and then subrogating the manufacturer?
Still, this really sucks. I would love to ask PCNA right now, "Ok, you think this is an insurance claim. So your position is that the reason several GT4 owners are experiencing this issue isn't that there's either a production or design problem with this car or at least some examples of it, but rather that the same type of unfortunate road hazard just happened to befall all of them in relatively quick succession, and this despite the cars being geographically distant from each other. That passes your sniff test?"
Still, this really sucks. I would love to ask PCNA right now, "Ok, you think this is an insurance claim. So your position is that the reason several GT4 owners are experiencing this issue isn't that there's either a production or design problem with this car or at least some examples of it, but rather that the same type of unfortunate road hazard just happened to befall all of them in relatively quick succession, and this despite the cars being geographically distant from each other. That passes your sniff test?"