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Great lap time Hawk, now I'm inspired to head back to see if I can get into the 27s.
Thanks usctrojanGT3!! Actually your video at Buttonwillow inspired me to try the rear wing riser too!! Hope to see you at a track someday After losing TWS, COTA is the best benchmark track in TX after all.
I'm hoping to get a 991.2 GT3 allocation (slim chance it seems) or the next GT4. I tried to buy Garvish's GT4 after I sold mine, but I should have offered him more! That is a great car and very well modded, congrats to your friend on an awesome purchase!
Thanks electron mike!! It's too bad you didn't have a chance to drive 1LE on the track. It's about 13 sec difference on Nordschleife and the main differences are only tire and aero. The Supercar 3R was 2 sec faster than Trofeo R used for Z/28 at VIR. ZL1 1LE is the car I absolutely want to drive one time!! Of course, 991.2 GT3 with manual or 991 GT2RS is another one I want to drive someday too!
I drove my friend's ZL1 1LE at COTA for one session when my car broke. It's definitely faster due to more grip than the regular ZL1, but I still much prefer Porsche GT cars. The weight, visibility, feel, and mechanical issues with the ZL1's still make me want my GT4 back!
Originally Posted by matttheboatman
I second that! Hoping the new GT4 will be announced soon.
We should start a support group for stupid folks that sold their GT4 and now regret it. I will bring the alcohol to the meetings to dull the pain.
I drove my friend's ZL1 1LE at COTA for one session when my car broke. It's definitely faster due to more grip than the regular ZL1, but I still much prefer Porsche GT cars. The weight, visibility, feel, and mechanical issues with the ZL1's still make me want my GT4 back!
That's cool!! I'm sure it's nothing like Porshce After all, Porsche is so well engineered but the Camaro team did a great job too. I've driven previous gen ZL1, Z/28 and SS 1LE and I'm impressed.
We should start a support group for stupid folks that sold their GT4 and now regret it. I will bring the alcohol to the meetings to dull the pain.
Absolutely Mike! Although not a true cure, perhaps a quick fix to our GT4 withdrawl symptoms is to get our hands on the next concoction currently being devised in Weissach.
So, close your eyes, and picture this future track day....
There sits staged together three magnificent Porsche GT cars. All are powered by a naturally aspirated 4.0 liter engine making that unmistakable "PURRR" sound a boxer engine makes.
- a sophisticated 4.0 991.2 GT3.
- a menacing 4.0 GT3RS, and,
- the mid-engine 4.0 Cayman GT4
Each car represents Porsche's finest - the final evolution of n/a technology. Each with it's own difference, it's own advantage, driven by drivers from different backgrounds, and with different track day goals. I hope to be the one sitting in that new GT4. And despite being outclassed by the venerable 911s, I will grip the wheel and think to myself; "Croc, lets show 'em what you can do!"
Absolutely Mike! Although not a true cure, perhaps a quick fix to our GT4 withdrawl symptoms is to get our hands on the next concoction currently being devised in Weissach.
So, close your eyes, and picture this future track day....
There sits staged together three magnificent Porsche GT cars. All are powered by a naturally aspirated 4.0 liter engine making that unmistakable "PURRR" sound a boxer engine makes.
- a sophisticated 4.0 991.2 GT3.
- a menacing 4.0 GT3RS, and,
- the mid-engine 4.0 Cayman GT4
Each car represents Porsche's finest - the final evolution of n/a technology. Each with it's own difference, it's own advantage, driven by drivers from different backgrounds, and with different track day goals. I hope to be the one sitting in that new GT4. And despite being outclassed by the venerable 911s, I will grip the wheel and think to myself; "Croc, lets show 'em what you can do!"
I'm so going to lust after the next GT4 if it has a 4.0! That said, I'm on the list at multiple dealers for every new Porsche GT car, and I am still not hopeful I will get one at anything close to MSRP. But I can always hope!
Nurburgring Nordschleife BTG - Nürburg, Germany
1. 7:30.97 - Nur93 on Sept 29, 2015, tires: cup2. mods: Endless fluid, RSL pads,-2 front 1.6 rear-post #84 video
2. 7.44.xx - Nagata-San on 6/6/17, post #755 video 3. 8:04.85 - David Bur on May, 201, tires: Michelin Cup 2s, post # 1115 - VIDEO
4. 8:05 - LaSource, April 2016, tires; PSC2s, mods: none - post #102
5. 8:20.36 - 24 Chromium on April 4, 2016, completely stock Euro Delivery - post #605
Improvment notice.. Nordschleife should be separated into "BTG" and "Full lap" times
My time is from full lap, while others posted BTG times
I'd like to submit a new personal best at The Ridge Motorsports Park (Shelton, WA) from yesterday: 1:51.96. The car is still completely stock, including factory alignment. Dunlop rubber this time though.
Without traffic, that would have been sub 8 You drive with PSM off? I don’t find it intrusive (PSM engaging is often a sign o pushed too far) and so I keep it on on Nordschleife (I’m ok to turn it off on GP courses).
Without traffic, that would have been sub 8 You drive with PSM off? I don’t find it intrusive (PSM engaging is often a sign o pushed too far) and so I keep it on on Nordschleife (I’m ok to turn it off on GP courses).
Yeah.. traffic... This year I am planning some trackday with less cars.
On Nordschleife I am driving with PSM off (TC on), but on GP tracks I always drive PSM + TC off. I am still bit more cautious on Nordschleife
From my feeling, PSM is cutting off throtle on corner exits and bumps a lot. And brake wear and temperature is way worse with PSM on, because the car is braking individual wheels all the time.
I'd like to submit a new personal best at The Ridge Motorsports Park (Shelton, WA) from yesterday: 1:51.96. The car is still completely stock, including factory alignment. Dunlop rubber this time though.
I was out with Porsche Owners Club at Willow Springs this weekend. Best lap was a 1:33.07. I was stuck there most of Sunday. Fun fast fast track. I got a 1:31 in me, I just need bigger um...you know whats. Its a track that rewards being flat from turn 5 through the breaking into turn 9 and minimal breaking into turn 1 from 135mph LOL. I'd definitely like another weekend there soon.
The great thing about the Porsche Owners Club is the quality of drivers and cars you get to benchmark yourself against. Its a racer focused club. Enjoy the videos of one of my fast laps (1:33) and me following a 2017 GT3 Cup car doing some practice laps. I was working, he was coasting.
The noise you hear is straight pipes from the stock cats!!
I should add a public "thank you!!" for sharing VBOX data with me for your lap -- definitely picked up some ideas to try from that...which apparently helped
Comparing fastest lap data from the session you shared with me and the lap above, the main differences are braking later in a few spots (T1, T6, T11) and also carrying more speed into the corner (T1 especially) plus a slightly different line that gets me back to full throttle sooner (T4-T5 and T8a-T8b). I still have to go to school on your approach to T13/14/15
I was out with Porsche Owners Club at Willow Springs this weekend. Best lap was a 1:33.07. I was stuck there most of Sunday. Fun fast fast track. I got a 1:31 in me, I just need bigger um...you know whats. Its a track that rewards being flat from turn 5 through the breaking into turn 9 and minimal breaking into turn 1 from 135mph LOL. I'd definitely like another weekend there soon.
The great thing about the Porsche Owners Club is the quality of drivers and cars you get to benchmark yourself against. Its a racer focused club. Enjoy the videos of one of my fast laps (1:33) and me following a 2017 GT3 Cup car doing some practice laps. I was working, he was coasting.
The noise you hear is straight pipes from the stock cats!!
Jaybird - can you tell me what course at Willow Springs this was, vs your 1:26 time in post #1086? What tires are you running and what mods beside that throaty exhaust. Thanks!
02-05-2018, 06:02 AM
After losing TWS, COTA is the best benchmark track in TX after all.
You drive with PSM off? I don’t find it intrusive (PSM engaging is often a sign o pushed too far) and so I keep it on on Nordschleife (I’m ok to turn it off on GP courses).
