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Old 02-26-2016, 02:38 PM
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Mooty, and others...

I understand the R7 isn't available in a smaller front than 265... but is the data supporting that running a larger front tire is helping much with handling, balance, and the understeer concerns?

Or are most people able to work that out via alignment and suspension setup?

In a perfect world, is it looking like it would be preferable to run a larger front than OEM for better handling?

Inquiring minds want to know...
Old 02-26-2016, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by WonderWagon
4th set of tires already? How many miles on your car now? How many of those are track miles? You running aggressive camber setup?
My car has about 6k miles and 10 track days. I was crewing through tires after 2-3 track days (front outside of the tires were getting worn out fast despite -3.0+ camber). The problem was the front springs being too soft which caused the fronts to roll over in turns. Not that the problem is fixed I got 18 HCs out of my Cup2s (need to go more camber as my front outside tire corded).
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Originally Posted by Yargk
Looking forward to hearing how the tires worked out.

Tried them on my WRX at Laguna and liked them. Harry's lap timer said 1.0 or 1.1 G in most turns, but 1.2 G in the Andretti hairpin. However, the last time I tracked that car it was on all seasons, so I don't have a proper baseline. Anecdotally they didn't seem as solid/firm/stiff sidewalled as fresh R888s when I drove on those. But maybe they'll be more consistent than R888s to the end.

Mooty: How much faster are R7s than NT01s or Cup 2s around a 2 minute track?
R7s will be about 2 seconds faster on a 2 minute lap track.
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Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3
My car has about 6k miles and 10 track days. I was crewing through tires after 2-3 track days (front outside of the tires were getting worn out fast despite -3.0+ camber). The problem was the front springs being too soft which caused the fronts to roll over in turns. Not that the problem is fixed I got 18 HCs out of my Cup2s (need to go more camber as my front outside tire corded).
Looking forward to your review of the RE-71Rs. Would you happen to have the spring part numbers?
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Is upgrading springs lower the car? I really don't want the car to be any lower haha.
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Originally Posted by Mvez

As you know, nitto has 235/35-19 and 285/35-19 which will work fine too, shouldn't be any abs issue, because GT car.....

look forward to the report on how they are.
I've looked at the Nt01s referenced but noted that delta in the rolling diameter between the two is greater than 5% and am curious as to whether it will be an issue with the ABS as on 987s.

At this juncture given what's available in inexpensive track rubber, the RE71r looks to be a good option as I don't want go on the hoohoo crack pipe. R888s would work and have a smaller (matching) diameter to shorten the gearing but, it's hard to find anything complementary out there about R888s.
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Originally Posted by bhk1004
Is upgrading springs lower the car? I really don't want the car to be any lower haha.
Springs can be purchased in various hts./lengths plus the GT4 has adjustable spring perches giving ride ht. adjustment +\-
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Love RE71R! I use to religiously use Hankook RS3's but since trying the Bridgestone's i haven't looked back.
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Originally Posted by trebien
Mooty, and others...

I understand the R7 isn't available in a smaller front than 265... but is the data supporting that running a larger front tire is helping much with handling, balance, and the understeer concerns?

Or are most people able to work that out via alignment and suspension setup?

In a perfect world, is it looking like it would be preferable to run a larger front than OEM for better handling?

Inquiring minds want to know...
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car pushes
i also have guards LSD, which pushes more
265/295 shoudl be good. if i can and they make them (they dont) i put even larger fronts.

alingment wont dial out all the push



Originally Posted by BillC3
What rims are you using, and what sizes & offsets? Any sign of rubbing? Getting ready to order track wheels soon, but still trying to decide sizes, offsets, brands, etc.
bbs +50 all around iirc
9 and 11. i woudl have taken 10.5 konwing what i know now. but close enough. i am no pro.

usctrojan runs the same size. no rubbing
Old 02-27-2016, 03:46 AM
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bbs +50 all around iirc
9 and 11. i woudl have taken 10.5 konwing what i know now. but close enough. i am no pro.

usctrojan runs the same size. no rubbing
Yup, no rubbing at all but I do have to run a 5mm spacer in the rear.
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RE-71R is a fantastic tire. It's the tire of choice for SCCA SOLO Street and Street Touring classes. I had them on my 986 Boxster and liked them much more than BFG Rivals and Hankook RS3's. Will definitely get them for my GT4, when it will finally get here.
Curious to hear how well they will work on the GT4 on a track.
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Originally Posted by trebien
Mooty, and others...

I understand the R7 isn't available in a smaller front than 265... but is the data supporting that running a larger front tire is helping much with handling, balance, and the understeer concerns?

Or are most people able to work that out via alignment and suspension setup?

In a perfect world, is it looking like it would be preferable to run a larger front than OEM for better handling?

Inquiring minds want to know...
I've always operated under the assumption that bigger is better. There is virtually no data out there on the subject because I'm aware of just a handful of people even tracking these cars at this point with 19" tires. An alignment and 265s have fixed the balance issue for me. On 20" OEM Cup2s, there is more understeer than with 265 hoosiers on the same alignment. At the ultimate limit, there is still a little understeer with 265 hoosiers, but it's more that I need to learn how to drive a mid engine car properly.


Possible tire options for 20/19 with some fringe sizes - see Tires tab, scroll down to GT4 section:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
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Originally Posted by ShakeNBake
Possible tire options for 20/19 with some fringe sizes - see Tires tab, scroll down to GT4 section:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
Thanks, great info. I was about halfway down the rabbit hole on a similar spreadsheet.

I had also come across:

RE-71R in 245/40-19 and 285/35-19 as discussed.

Advan AD-08R available in a lot of sizes, but I have no experience with:

245/35-19
245/40-19
255/30-19
255/35-19
265/30-19
265/35-19
295/30-19
305/30-19

https://www.yokohamatire.com/tires/d...n_neova_ad08_r


I am not sure how the AD-08R perform, but there is a lot of sizing availability to create combos with 255 or even 265 fronts. They are also reasonable in price, and with the lower profile give a slight advantage in virtual gearing ratio.

Of note, the 255/30-19 and 295 and 305 sizes are XL rated. But the 30 ratio of the 255 might give rotational/TC issues.

Anybody have thoughts/experience with the AD-08R?
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Originally Posted by ShakeNBake
Possible tire options for 20/19 with some fringe sizes - see Tires tab, scroll down to GT4 section:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
Thanks for sharing!
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Originally Posted by trebien
Thanks, great info. I was about halfway down the rabbit hole on a similar spreadsheet.

I had also come across:

RE-71R in 245/40-19 and 285/35-19 as discussed.

Advan AD-08R available in a lot of sizes, but I have no experience with:

245/35-19
245/40-19
255/30-19
255/35-19
265/30-19
265/35-19
295/30-19
305/30-19

https://www.yokohamatire.com/tires/d...n_neova_ad08_r


I am not sure how the AD-08R perform, but there is a lot of sizing availability to create combos with 255 or even 265 fronts. They are also reasonable in price, and with the lower profile give a slight advantage in virtual gearing ratio.

Of note, the 255/30-19 and 295 and 305 sizes are XL rated. But the 30 ratio of the 255 might give rotational/TC issues.

Anybody have thoughts/experience with the AD-08R?
tough long lasting tyre, not really a proper semi slick, the tread wear is impressive I have gotten around 8 days out of mine on a c2s.


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