RE-71Rs going on soon
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Mooty, and others...
I understand the R7 isn't available in a smaller front than 265... but is the data supporting that running a larger front tire is helping much with handling, balance, and the understeer concerns?
Or are most people able to work that out via alignment and suspension setup?
In a perfect world, is it looking like it would be preferable to run a larger front than OEM for better handling?
Inquiring minds want to know...
I understand the R7 isn't available in a smaller front than 265... but is the data supporting that running a larger front tire is helping much with handling, balance, and the understeer concerns?
Or are most people able to work that out via alignment and suspension setup?
In a perfect world, is it looking like it would be preferable to run a larger front than OEM for better handling?
Inquiring minds want to know...
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My car has about 6k miles and 10 track days. I was crewing through tires after 2-3 track days (front outside of the tires were getting worn out fast despite -3.0+ camber). The problem was the front springs being too soft which caused the fronts to roll over in turns. Not that the problem is fixed I got 18 HCs out of my Cup2s (need to go more camber as my front outside tire corded).
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Looking forward to hearing how the tires worked out.
Tried them on my WRX at Laguna and liked them. Harry's lap timer said 1.0 or 1.1 G in most turns, but 1.2 G in the Andretti hairpin. However, the last time I tracked that car it was on all seasons, so I don't have a proper baseline. Anecdotally they didn't seem as solid/firm/stiff sidewalled as fresh R888s when I drove on those. But maybe they'll be more consistent than R888s to the end.
Mooty: How much faster are R7s than NT01s or Cup 2s around a 2 minute track?
Tried them on my WRX at Laguna and liked them. Harry's lap timer said 1.0 or 1.1 G in most turns, but 1.2 G in the Andretti hairpin. However, the last time I tracked that car it was on all seasons, so I don't have a proper baseline. Anecdotally they didn't seem as solid/firm/stiff sidewalled as fresh R888s when I drove on those. But maybe they'll be more consistent than R888s to the end.
Mooty: How much faster are R7s than NT01s or Cup 2s around a 2 minute track?
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My car has about 6k miles and 10 track days. I was crewing through tires after 2-3 track days (front outside of the tires were getting worn out fast despite -3.0+ camber). The problem was the front springs being too soft which caused the fronts to roll over in turns. Not that the problem is fixed I got 18 HCs out of my Cup2s (need to go more camber as my front outside tire corded).
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At this juncture given what's available in inexpensive track rubber, the RE71r looks to be a good option as I don't want go on the hoohoo crack pipe. R888s would work and have a smaller (matching) diameter to shorten the gearing but, it's hard to find anything complementary out there about R888s.
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Mooty, and others...
I understand the R7 isn't available in a smaller front than 265... but is the data supporting that running a larger front tire is helping much with handling, balance, and the understeer concerns?
Or are most people able to work that out via alignment and suspension setup?
In a perfect world, is it looking like it would be preferable to run a larger front than OEM for better handling?
Inquiring minds want to know...
I understand the R7 isn't available in a smaller front than 265... but is the data supporting that running a larger front tire is helping much with handling, balance, and the understeer concerns?
Or are most people able to work that out via alignment and suspension setup?
In a perfect world, is it looking like it would be preferable to run a larger front than OEM for better handling?
Inquiring minds want to know...
car pushes
i also have guards LSD, which pushes more
265/295 shoudl be good. if i can and they make them (they dont) i put even larger fronts.
alingment wont dial out all the push
9 and 11. i woudl have taken 10.5 konwing what i know now. but close enough. i am no pro.
usctrojan runs the same size. no rubbing
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RE-71R is a fantastic tire. It's the tire of choice for SCCA SOLO Street and Street Touring classes. I had them on my 986 Boxster and liked them much more than BFG Rivals and Hankook RS3's. Will definitely get them for my GT4, when it will finally get here.
Curious to hear how well they will work on the GT4 on a track.
Curious to hear how well they will work on the GT4 on a track.
#27
Mooty, and others...
I understand the R7 isn't available in a smaller front than 265... but is the data supporting that running a larger front tire is helping much with handling, balance, and the understeer concerns?
Or are most people able to work that out via alignment and suspension setup?
In a perfect world, is it looking like it would be preferable to run a larger front than OEM for better handling?
Inquiring minds want to know...
I understand the R7 isn't available in a smaller front than 265... but is the data supporting that running a larger front tire is helping much with handling, balance, and the understeer concerns?
Or are most people able to work that out via alignment and suspension setup?
In a perfect world, is it looking like it would be preferable to run a larger front than OEM for better handling?
Inquiring minds want to know...
Possible tire options for 20/19 with some fringe sizes - see Tires tab, scroll down to GT4 section:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
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Possible tire options for 20/19 with some fringe sizes - see Tires tab, scroll down to GT4 section:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
I had also come across:
RE-71R in 245/40-19 and 285/35-19 as discussed.
Advan AD-08R available in a lot of sizes, but I have no experience with:
245/35-19
245/40-19
255/30-19
255/35-19
265/30-19
265/35-19
295/30-19
305/30-19
https://www.yokohamatire.com/tires/d...n_neova_ad08_r
I am not sure how the AD-08R perform, but there is a lot of sizing availability to create combos with 255 or even 265 fronts. They are also reasonable in price, and with the lower profile give a slight advantage in virtual gearing ratio.
Of note, the 255/30-19 and 295 and 305 sizes are XL rated. But the 30 ratio of the 255 might give rotational/TC issues.
Anybody have thoughts/experience with the AD-08R?
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Possible tire options for 20/19 with some fringe sizes - see Tires tab, scroll down to GT4 section:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
#30
Thanks, great info. I was about halfway down the rabbit hole on a similar spreadsheet.
I had also come across:
RE-71R in 245/40-19 and 285/35-19 as discussed.
Advan AD-08R available in a lot of sizes, but I have no experience with:
245/35-19
245/40-19
255/30-19
255/35-19
265/30-19
265/35-19
295/30-19
305/30-19
https://www.yokohamatire.com/tires/d...n_neova_ad08_r
I am not sure how the AD-08R perform, but there is a lot of sizing availability to create combos with 255 or even 265 fronts. They are also reasonable in price, and with the lower profile give a slight advantage in virtual gearing ratio.
Of note, the 255/30-19 and 295 and 305 sizes are XL rated. But the 30 ratio of the 255 might give rotational/TC issues.
Anybody have thoughts/experience with the AD-08R?
I had also come across:
RE-71R in 245/40-19 and 285/35-19 as discussed.
Advan AD-08R available in a lot of sizes, but I have no experience with:
245/35-19
245/40-19
255/30-19
255/35-19
265/30-19
265/35-19
295/30-19
305/30-19
https://www.yokohamatire.com/tires/d...n_neova_ad08_r
I am not sure how the AD-08R perform, but there is a lot of sizing availability to create combos with 255 or even 265 fronts. They are also reasonable in price, and with the lower profile give a slight advantage in virtual gearing ratio.
Of note, the 255/30-19 and 295 and 305 sizes are XL rated. But the 30 ratio of the 255 might give rotational/TC issues.
Anybody have thoughts/experience with the AD-08R?