Anyone come from an S2000 to a GT4... Thoughts and perspectives?
#16
Loved the S2000. Even with my novice driving skills, the bone stock car was plenty fun on the track. I would love to own one along with the GT4 if it's not so expensive to have a car sit there and do nothing.
That said, I always felt Caymans (or Porsches in general) remind me of my S2K (or Hondas), but on steroids. The P-cars feel more mature, while both cars are very exciting in their own ways.
That said, I always felt Caymans (or Porsches in general) remind me of my S2K (or Hondas), but on steroids. The P-cars feel more mature, while both cars are very exciting in their own ways.
#17
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I had the same dilemma about my heavily modded Lotus. After 10 years the car is just as I like it, fixed all the issues, drives better than from the factory.
Ultimately I decided it was too unique to sell and found a way to keep both the GT4 and it. So far I am loving every moment in the GT4, but the driving experience is pretty different than a Lotus. Having both at the same time confirmed my decision to keep both.
So you should at least take delivery of your GT4 before deciding. S2000 values are stable.
Ultimately I decided it was too unique to sell and found a way to keep both the GT4 and it. So far I am loving every moment in the GT4, but the driving experience is pretty different than a Lotus. Having both at the same time confirmed my decision to keep both.
So you should at least take delivery of your GT4 before deciding. S2000 values are stable.
#18
Loved the S2000. Even with my novice driving skills, the bone stock car was plenty fun on the track. I would love to own one along with the GT4 if it's not so expensive to have a car sit there and do nothing.
That said, I always felt Caymans (or Porsches in general) remind me of my S2K (or Hondas), but on steroids. The P-cars feel more mature, while both cars are very exciting in their own ways.
That said, I always felt Caymans (or Porsches in general) remind me of my S2K (or Hondas), but on steroids. The P-cars feel more mature, while both cars are very exciting in their own ways.
It is way more civilized than my track car and less raw as well. Not really a apples to apples comparison though.
#19
I had a Cayman S in between my S2k and my GT4 but had the Honda for 10 years and tracked the hell out of it. I think you need to ask yourself what the intended purpose of the car is and what type of operating budget you're setting aside. The biggest shock moving from Honda to Porsche is not the grip level, horsepower, the torque, or the trim level. It's the cost of maintaining the car if you're going to drive it a lot and track it. The cost of consumables such as tires brake pads rotors etc. is quite a multiple of what you'd find in the Honda parts department.
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The S2000 is a fantastic car and yours looks great (Imola Orange is the best!) The chassis is prime for modifications; it's a great car if you're looking to experiment. There's more than enough aftermarket parts to keep you toying around forever. You can't beat revving out to 9,000 RPMs. You should keep it and turbocharge it, the stock block is pretty stout.
I've had limited seat time with the GT4 so far, and not on the track unfortunately, but it's incredibly sharp and polished from the factory. It feels more efficient and dangerous. There is much more power under the curve which is where it really differs from the S2000. I've been in a few S2000's with coilovers and they tend to wander / crash over bumps, whereas the GT4 is so well composed on the street even over the roughest imperfections. The GT4 has been responding quite well to modifications, We've seen greater gains with every development part here on the GT4 than I've ever seen with N/A bolt ons from an S2000. The downside to the GT4: it's more expensive across the board in every manner from parts to maintenance to insurance.
I love both cars and I myself would be hard pressed to part with the S2000, keeping it could give you a chance to experiment with it more and find a way to create a separate driving feel from the GT4. Whatever you choose, cheers!
The S2000 is a fantastic car and yours looks great (Imola Orange is the best!) The chassis is prime for modifications; it's a great car if you're looking to experiment. There's more than enough aftermarket parts to keep you toying around forever. You can't beat revving out to 9,000 RPMs. You should keep it and turbocharge it, the stock block is pretty stout.
I've had limited seat time with the GT4 so far, and not on the track unfortunately, but it's incredibly sharp and polished from the factory. It feels more efficient and dangerous. There is much more power under the curve which is where it really differs from the S2000. I've been in a few S2000's with coilovers and they tend to wander / crash over bumps, whereas the GT4 is so well composed on the street even over the roughest imperfections. The GT4 has been responding quite well to modifications, We've seen greater gains with every development part here on the GT4 than I've ever seen with N/A bolt ons from an S2000. The downside to the GT4: it's more expensive across the board in every manner from parts to maintenance to insurance.
I love both cars and I myself would be hard pressed to part with the S2000, keeping it could give you a chance to experiment with it more and find a way to create a separate driving feel from the GT4. Whatever you choose, cheers!
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#22
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I had an S2000, bought one when they first came out and had it for several years. Liked it, never loved it. On track I was always wanting more HP, off track wanting more torque. Since then I've had an air-cooled 911, a 996, and now a Cayman S. Liked every one of the Porsches more than the S2000...
A S2000 vs. GT4 (IMHO) is like comparing a Civic Si vs. S2000
The Imola orange and Mugen bits on yours are definitely cool though...
(Though I did manage to pass many a Porsche on technical tracks)
A S2000 vs. GT4 (IMHO) is like comparing a Civic Si vs. S2000
The Imola orange and Mugen bits on yours are definitely cool though...
(Though I did manage to pass many a Porsche on technical tracks)
#23
I would keep both,figure out a way.
I still have and will never sell my s2000.It was featured in a mag back in 07, it's turbo and all.
Btw like posted above the cars just aren't comparable. You're talking $20k vs like $100k. If I had to compare my 911 to the S i would say it drives similar but not as slow as an NA s2000.
I still have and will never sell my s2000.It was featured in a mag back in 07, it's turbo and all.
Btw like posted above the cars just aren't comparable. You're talking $20k vs like $100k. If I had to compare my 911 to the S i would say it drives similar but not as slow as an NA s2000.
#24
I would keep both,figure out a way.
I still have and will never sell my s2000.It was featured in a mag back in 07, it's turbo and all.
Btw like posted above the cars just aren't comparable. You're talking $20k vs like $100k. If I had to compare my 911 to the S i would say it drives similar but not as slow as an NA s2000.
I still have and will never sell my s2000.It was featured in a mag back in 07, it's turbo and all.
Btw like posted above the cars just aren't comparable. You're talking $20k vs like $100k. If I had to compare my 911 to the S i would say it drives similar but not as slow as an NA s2000.
#25
Yup I'm still on s2ki and yup sold him my first pair of Brides.
#27
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Great feedback, all very well considered points. One theme that I'm so surprise to have keep coming up is the number of current and former S2000 owners that are now deep into the Porsche brand chiming in advising to keep the S2000.
I'm actually getting almost the inverse of the expected feedback between a similar post on S2Ki and Rennlist. The S2Ki guys are all saying go for the GT4 and don't look back it's way more car, while the Reenlister's are saying it's better to keep both if you can, both are special.
Didn't expect as much love for a humble S2000 amongst Porsche enthusiasts.
I'm actually getting almost the inverse of the expected feedback between a similar post on S2Ki and Rennlist. The S2Ki guys are all saying go for the GT4 and don't look back it's way more car, while the Reenlister's are saying it's better to keep both if you can, both are special.
Didn't expect as much love for a humble S2000 amongst Porsche enthusiasts.
#28
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Thread Starter
Yes, I am in the GTA. I will definitely connect with you should I decide to part ways with the S2000. Once I get the call to lock in my GT4 config I'll have a hell of a decision to make for sure.
#29
Rennlist Member
Don't sell the S2k imo. Last of the old school vtecs. I had a 2001 AP1, sold it because I needed room. Really missed it so bought an AP2 2008 CR. The color of your car is really cool too. Don't sell it unless you need the money towards the GT4. Good luck deciding.
#30
Former S2000 owner here, current Cayman GTS owner. I do miss it a little bit, though I am having tons of fun in the Cayman. For the respective price of these cars, you could almost keep both. You could add an S2000's worth of options to the GT4 pretty easy.
The Cayman is definitely the faster, more capable car, but you always feel a little more insulated from the outside world. The S2000 was always more raw and a more scary to me. It always felt like the car was about to bite you if you made a mistake. The Cayman is far more confidence inspiring and easy to drive very fast. The S2000 was more fun to drive slowly, but at full tilt, the Cayman is by far the superior speed machine. The S2000's shifter (as mentioned) is maybe the best you can get in any car at any price point. It was one of few "downgrades" for me by getting the Cayman.
Also, that is one incredibly beautiful and well done S2000.
The Cayman is definitely the faster, more capable car, but you always feel a little more insulated from the outside world. The S2000 was always more raw and a more scary to me. It always felt like the car was about to bite you if you made a mistake. The Cayman is far more confidence inspiring and easy to drive very fast. The S2000 was more fun to drive slowly, but at full tilt, the Cayman is by far the superior speed machine. The S2000's shifter (as mentioned) is maybe the best you can get in any car at any price point. It was one of few "downgrades" for me by getting the Cayman.
Also, that is one incredibly beautiful and well done S2000.