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Old 12-05-2015, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Mvez
Also, for those who only look at Tire Rack for Hoosiers, they don't list the 295-35-19....but Hoosier DOES make a 295-35-19.
We have the 295/35/19R7 available. Common fitment for Ferrari 458 with 19" Forgeline wheels.
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Originally Posted by ExMB
You may have issues with rear sizes greater than 295s unless you change the offset and/or camber to create more room inside. IIRC competition motorsports, sponsor on here, was able to locate 295 Trofeo Rs for the OEM 20s.
We have 1 pair of 295/30/20 TrofeoR left in stock.
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My order from Steve at Forgeline showed up (well half of it anyways - enough to test fit).

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I think this might help with some of the understeer
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OEM Front + half worn MPSC2 is 44.6lbs (really surprised how light - I'm assuming they are forged)
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OEM Rear + half worn MPSC2 is 54lbs
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19"x9 GA1R + 265 R7 is 43.6lbs - It does not get much lighter than this, this is a damn light wheel - so again, amazing that the OEM front is just 1lb more (give or take, the 245/35/20 MPS2 and 265/35/19 R7 are the same weight - 23lbs)
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19x11" GA1R + 295 R7 is 47.2lbs
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About 5mm of clearance of rear knuckle
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About 10mm front strut clearance
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Plenty of rear strut clearance
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Old 12-08-2015, 10:32 PM
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Plenty of Front caliper clearance
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Plenty of Rear caliper clearance
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Front clearance at full lock is good, I can fit my hand with no problem
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Rear clearance at full lock is tighter, I could see it rubbing under compression
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I think this should be fine, especially once I add -3 camber
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One change I'll have to make is to compensate for the rake difference with the 265 front. I will need to drop the front about 4mm.

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Old 12-09-2015, 01:24 AM
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Wow, thanks for the pics and information shakeNbake!
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Thanks for the info. Are you trailering the car to the track?
Can we get a side photo when you get a chance? Thanks.
Old 12-09-2015, 01:49 AM
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Also thanks for the pictures shakeNbake!!!

What camber does the car have in the pictures?

Could you take a picture of the rear tire near the fender lip to see how much under the fender it is?

If you increase the camber in the front will you reduce the clearance to the strut? Seems like there's plenty with 10 mm, but just wondering.

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Old 12-09-2015, 03:11 AM
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What are the tire sizes and offsets? I had to use a 5mm spacer on my 19x11 ET50 wheel. Good to know that 265/35s fit the front...let us know how it goes.
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Old 12-09-2015, 04:04 AM
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Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3
What are the tire sizes and offsets? I had to use a 5mm spacer on my 19x11 ET50 wheel. Good to know that 265/35s fit the front...let us know how it goes.
From a previous post
Originally Posted by ShakeNBake
19x9.0 GA1R SHALLOW 5 X 130 CB 71.5 ET 48
19x11 GA1R DEEP 5 x 130 CB 71.5 ET 45 OPEN
R7 265/35R19
R7 295/30R19
Old 12-09-2015, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Yargk
Also thanks for the pictures shakeNbake!!!

What camber does the car have in the pictures?

Could you take a picture of the rear tire near the fender lip to see how much under the fender it is?

If you increase the camber in the front will you reduce the clearance to the strut? Seems like there's plenty with 10 mm, but just wondering.
Stock alignment there - it's going in this week for a -3/-2.5 alignment, ride heigh adjustment, and corner balancing.

It's difficult to tell how much the front tire will tuck in under compression - the rear is completely fine though. The Front is a different story, it looks very close. More camber will fix that I think, not to mention that there is almost 0.5" more fender clearance now due to the 19" wheel.

The front strut clearance should not change with the LCA shims, the wheel is in fixed position w/r to the strut.

I'll take more pics when it gets back from the alignment.
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Keep in mind that your caster will increase with an increase in camber. Unless you get the adjustable bushing as well.
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Originally Posted by ExMB
Keep in mind that your caster will increase with an increase in camber. Unless you get the adjustable bushing as well.
That's a good point, it would be nice if someone had already figured all of this out. I don't see many folks trying to run a track dedicated setup, so i will have to experiment my way through this. It's very similar to the GT3, so it's not blue ocean... It could be I need the adjustable arms for caster, or maybe the pucks - we'll see. I think we've all been pretty clear with our desire to run more camber, and I haven't seen the shops give us see-spot-run recipe.
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Awesome post! Thanks for sharing the pics. Much appreciate it!!
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Originally Posted by ShakeNBake
That's a good point, it would be nice if someone had already figured all of this out. I don't see many folks trying to run a track dedicated setup, so i will have to experiment my way through this. It's very similar to the GT3, so it's not blue ocean... It could be I need the adjustable arms for caster, or maybe the pucks - we'll see. I think we've all been pretty clear with our desire to run more camber, and I haven't seen the shops give us see-spot-run recipe.
I'm running OEM wheel/tire sizes and my front camber is at 2.5. My caster wound up at about 10 after first doing the corner balance and then the alignment. For now I'm going to live with it.

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A slight increase might help you with your 265 up front in terms of closeness to structure under compression.
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Originally Posted by CMS
We have the 295/35/19R7 available. Common fitment for Ferrari 458 with 19" Forgeline wheels.
I'm trying to get all these guys to listen to me.

295-35-19 with a 265-35-19 will give the car proper rake, let it turn better, and allow for less alignment/rake changes necessary, compared to running a much shorter 295-30-19.

The 295-30-19 works, but the 295-35-19 is superior in ever aspect, for this fitment. Higher load rating, more progressive handling, proper rake, etc. etc.


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