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Old Jul 15, 2017 | 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Warwick Morris
Seems like these cars have got under the skin of quite a few of us. I picked mine up mid Sept last year and have done about 5,000km. I've ordered a 991.2 GT3 for late delivery 2018 but at present I'm thinking of keeping the GT4 as a dedicated road registered track car. I have started to learn it and it sure beats driving my old 996.1 GT3 down to Wakefield though it's not quite as fast on track as that car. It's also a bit more "disposable" than a spankers new GT3 which I'd reserve for more gentleman-type track days. If I keep it, I'd do a few engine mods to get some more ponies.
Warwick - are you bringing yours to Bathurst Challenge for the sprints this year? I'll be back with Mark and Tim again in ours.
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Old Jul 15, 2017 | 08:02 AM
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11 GT4s on Carsales Vs 9 981GTS - the new GT4 won't be too far away (and there is no GT4RS - AP stated this at the GT3 release).
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Old Jul 15, 2017 | 08:06 AM
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Hey all I bought a GT4 from Willoughby 2 months ago..I cannot stop driving it. 3000kms in 2 months...Plus 1 day at SMP and at Wakefield next Sunday...Enjoying it immensely
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Old Jul 15, 2017 | 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by randr
11 GT4s on Carsales Vs 9 981GTS - the new GT4 won't be too far away (and there is no GT4RS - AP stated this at the GT3 release).
So few gts's were sold new is why so few on the 2nd hand market.
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Old Jul 15, 2017 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Bardman
So few gts's were sold new is why so few on the 2nd hand market.
What do you base that on? I guess its possible given the wait for a GTS was long indeed.

Three things you will never hear an Australian dealer discuss

(1) GT3 E engine failure

(2) GT3 F engine failure

(3) GT4 go to gear (3) failure

All three are real.
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Old Jul 15, 2017 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by randr
What do you base that on? I guess its possible given the wait for a GTS was long indeed.

Three things you will never hear an Australian dealer discuss

(1) GT3 E engine failure

(2) GT3 F engine failure

(3) GT4 go to gear (3) failure

All three are real.
Sales figures from motor magazine. Cayman volumes grew significantly on release of gt4. Very few people were prepared to spend the money on what many considered to be the underpowered gts.

How does gt3/gt4 issues relate to the fact that not many people bought gts's?
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Old Jul 15, 2017 | 12:40 PM
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4,000 km on mine, I'd say nearly 90% on track, SMP / Wakefield, 5th set of tyres, was expecting the third gear issue to pop up but nothing as yet.

Car is going in November for the 991.2 GT3, however will miss it, it is for the money an awesome bit of kit.

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Old Jul 15, 2017 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by O5C4R
Hi Charlie It seems the dealers never know what the rest of the whole entire world knows, but they had box ready to go which says to me someone knew something lol

I think someone in Qld has had this issue before me
I was surprised when he told me he hadn't heard of it. Your car was the first in Australia I had heard of. Was hoping we avoided the issue somehow here, as my car is a May 16 build so around the same time as all the people with issues.

Originally Posted by Catmagog
Purchased a GT4 (ex Sydney) last week. Phenomenal car. Had a 3RS and was without Porsche waiting for the .2 3RS. Now I don't know if I really want one
Interesting that coming out of a 991 3RS into a GT4, that you don't find it underwhelming power wise. Congrats on the purchase mate.

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Warwick - are you bringing yours to Bathurst Challenge for the sprints this year? I'll be back with Mark and Tim again in ours.
Have you done it before? I was considering doing the Regulation at Bathurst this year. Any reason why you chose the Sprint over the Regulation?
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Old Jul 15, 2017 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by mungee
Hey all I bought a GT4 from Willoughby 2 months ago..I cannot stop driving it. 3000kms in 2 months...Plus 1 day at SMP and at Wakefield next Sunday...Enjoying it immensely
Congrats mate, the best colour, but I am a little biased.
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Old Jul 15, 2017 | 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by .dee
4,000 km on mine, I'd say nearly 90% on track, SMP / Wakefield, 5th set of tyres, was expecting the third gear issue to pup up but nothing as yet.

Car is going in November for the 991.2 GT3, however will miss it, it is for the money an awesome bit of kit.
5 sets of tyres @ 4,000kms? I have done 3 track days and 95% of the rest has been spirited driving and I just changed my fronts for the first time and the rears are due to be changed soon. I am just over 4000kms.
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Old Jul 15, 2017 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Charliekay
5 sets of tyres @ 4,000kms? I have done 3 track days and 95% of the rest has been spirited driving and I just changed my fronts for the first time and the rears are due to be changed soon. I am just over 4000kms.
Maybe he's driving it like there's no tomorrow..
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Old Jul 15, 2017 | 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Bardman
Sales figures from motor magazine. Cayman volumes grew significantly on release of gt4. Very few people were prepared to spend the money on what many considered to be the underpowered gts.

How does gt3/gt4 issues relate to the fact that not many people bought gts's?
I believe there were about 140 GT4s delivered to Australia (at least thats a number I have been told at some point). The numbers are probably a wash wrt the GTS.

The GTS is a nice niche model, I'm pretty happy with mine - great daily - any difference on track is basically down to the driver - it always has been this way. Personally, I don't consider the GTS underpowered - it does exactly what it says on the label - sharp, smart daily. Realistically its the other way round, the GT4 is a long way from a rocket ship and gets thumped by any grocery getting 911 with rear axle steering (I know this because because i have a grocery getting .2 S with rear axle steering and have driven plenty of GT4s - still a great drivers car).

The GT4 third cog issue (which is real) was raised in regard to the preceding post - e.g. the new GT4 has been spied, there is a third cog issue (for tracked cars - - most tracks are 3/4 tracks) and the GT dept hasn't really covered itself in glory with the GT3. Australian dealers play dumb in regard to these real issues - so caveat emptor.

Basically, nows the time to sell because the release of the new one will impact on prices - more power, fixed 3rd cog issue and rumoured to have a PDK option (which will better for track use and there will be no 4RS). However, if you must have a Porsche GT car - the other reality is just get the new GT3......(I realise for some its a value proposition).

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Old Jul 15, 2017 | 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by randr
I believe there were about 140 GT4s delivered to Australia. The numbers are probably a wash wrt the GTS.

The GTS is a nice niche model, I'm pretty happy with mine - great daily. I don't consider it underpowered. Realistically its the other way round, the GT4 is a long way from a rocket ship and gets thumped by any grocery getting 911 with rear axle steering. .
There were over 200 gt4s brought in. I forget the number of gts's but I remember being surprised at how few there were compared to the gt4.

Not sure how the gt4 (with more horsepower than the gts) could be underpowered and the gts not?
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Old Jul 15, 2017 | 09:41 PM
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Have you done it before? I was considering doing the Regulation at Bathurst this year. Any reason why you chose the Sprint over the Regulation?
I did it last year. I did a best lap time of 2.25 last year. The minimum lap time allowed in the Regularity is a 2.36. So that's why I do the sprint.
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Old Jul 15, 2017 | 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by randr
I believe there were about 140 GT4s delivered to Australia (at least thats a number I have been told at some point). The numbers are probably a wash wrt the GTS.

The GTS is a nice niche model, I'm pretty happy with mine - great daily - any difference on track is basically down to the driver - it always has been this way. Personally, I don't consider the GTS underpowered - it does exactly what it says on the label - sharp, smart daily. Realistically its the other way round, the GT4 is a long way from a rocket ship and gets thumped by any grocery getting 911 with rear axle steering (I know this because because i have a grocery getting .2 S with rear axle steering and have driven plenty of GT4s - still a great drivers car).

The GT4 third cog issue (which is real) was raised in regard to the preceding post - e.g. the new GT4 has been spied, there is a third cog issue (for tracked cars - - most tracks are 3/4 tracks) and the GT dept hasn't really covered itself in glory with the GT3. Australian dealers play dumb in regard to these real issues - so caveat emptor.

Basically, nows the time to sell because the release of the new one will impact on prices - more power, fixed 3rd cog issue and rumoured to have a PDK option (which will better for track use and there will be no 4RS). However, if you must have a Porsche GT car - the other reality is just get the new GT3......(I realise for some its a value proposition).
You obviously dont get the GT4 like the rest of us do, many of us have owned and driven the latest 911's incl GT3 and RS's and we still prefer the GT4.
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