LWBs, PTS, AND Euro Delivery. One caveat...
#16
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I did an ED in the winter. Made a great ski trip.
#17
Rennlist Member
I am starting to write a detailed blog about each step of Euro Delivery.
One thing that you must keep in mind is that Euro Del is super cool in terms of concept - but real world issues do mean you have to REALLY want to do it. It takes a tremendous amount of time to plan the entire trip. There are issues to contend with such as paying for the car weeks in advance / financing difficulties / up-fronting an additional tax 17% VAT (possibly) / and of course the delay in getting the car back. Bottom line - its harder than you think, and its more expensive than you think.
And, you must ask yourself; are the NET benefits gained worth the cost and effort?
Driving a Porsche is Euro is NOT a net benefit as you can easily do that on Porsche Tour or with a Porsche Rental car.
Driving YOUR GT4 in the Alps or a Nurburgring ring IS a net benefit that most enjoy. But, because of your winter delivery timeframe, it will not benefit you as the most interesting tracks and Alps passes are closed for the winter.
Would I take delivery of my GT4 in Chicago in the middle of winter for a driving "experience". No way. My advice is to pass on the winter Euro Delivery in a GT4.
Then, with the money you save, book a cool Euro vacation early this fall or in the late spring 2016 , take a trip to the Nurburgring, and have Sabine Schmitz personally teach you how to drive fast on the ring using RSRs GT4.
One thing that you must keep in mind is that Euro Del is super cool in terms of concept - but real world issues do mean you have to REALLY want to do it. It takes a tremendous amount of time to plan the entire trip. There are issues to contend with such as paying for the car weeks in advance / financing difficulties / up-fronting an additional tax 17% VAT (possibly) / and of course the delay in getting the car back. Bottom line - its harder than you think, and its more expensive than you think.
And, you must ask yourself; are the NET benefits gained worth the cost and effort?
Driving a Porsche is Euro is NOT a net benefit as you can easily do that on Porsche Tour or with a Porsche Rental car.
Driving YOUR GT4 in the Alps or a Nurburgring ring IS a net benefit that most enjoy. But, because of your winter delivery timeframe, it will not benefit you as the most interesting tracks and Alps passes are closed for the winter.
Would I take delivery of my GT4 in Chicago in the middle of winter for a driving "experience". No way. My advice is to pass on the winter Euro Delivery in a GT4.
Then, with the money you save, book a cool Euro vacation early this fall or in the late spring 2016 , take a trip to the Nurburgring, and have Sabine Schmitz personally teach you how to drive fast on the ring using RSRs GT4.
#18
The most important question for you has not been asked...what PTS color did you choose?
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Matt: I have done 5 European Deliveries to date - 2 Porsches & 3 BMWs - and I think you are spot on! Looking forward to reading your thread/blog which certainly will be of assistance to others here on Rennlist that are considering doing ED!
Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel
.
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I am starting to write a detailed blog about each step of Euro Delivery.
One thing that you must keep in mind is that Euro Del is super cool in terms of concept - but real world issues do mean you have to REALLY want to do it. It takes a tremendous amount of time to plan the entire trip. There are issues to contend with such as paying for the car weeks in advance / financing difficulties / up-fronting an additional tax 17% VAT (possibly) / and of course the delay in getting the car back. Bottom line - its harder than you think, and its more expensive than you think.
And, you must ask yourself; are the NET benefits gained worth the cost and effort?
Driving a Porsche is Euro is NOT a net benefit as you can easily do that on Porsche Tour or with a Porsche Rental car.
Driving YOUR GT4 in the Alps or a Nurburgring ring IS a net benefit that most enjoy. But, because of your winter delivery timeframe, it will not benefit you as the most interesting tracks and Alps passes are closed for the winter.
Would I take delivery of my GT4 in Chicago in the middle of winter for a driving "experience". No way. My advice is to pass on the winter Euro Delivery in a GT4.
Then, with the money you save, book a cool Euro vacation early this fall or in the late spring 2016 , take a trip to the Nurburgring, and have Sabine Schmitz personally teach you how to drive fast on the ring using RSRs GT4.
One thing that you must keep in mind is that Euro Del is super cool in terms of concept - but real world issues do mean you have to REALLY want to do it. It takes a tremendous amount of time to plan the entire trip. There are issues to contend with such as paying for the car weeks in advance / financing difficulties / up-fronting an additional tax 17% VAT (possibly) / and of course the delay in getting the car back. Bottom line - its harder than you think, and its more expensive than you think.
And, you must ask yourself; are the NET benefits gained worth the cost and effort?
Driving a Porsche is Euro is NOT a net benefit as you can easily do that on Porsche Tour or with a Porsche Rental car.
Driving YOUR GT4 in the Alps or a Nurburgring ring IS a net benefit that most enjoy. But, because of your winter delivery timeframe, it will not benefit you as the most interesting tracks and Alps passes are closed for the winter.
Would I take delivery of my GT4 in Chicago in the middle of winter for a driving "experience". No way. My advice is to pass on the winter Euro Delivery in a GT4.
Then, with the money you save, book a cool Euro vacation early this fall or in the late spring 2016 , take a trip to the Nurburgring, and have Sabine Schmitz personally teach you how to drive fast on the ring using RSRs GT4.
Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel
.
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#20
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I've lived in Germany over a winter, it does snow and they require snow tires. In the end the car will get filthy and you won't get that much enjoyment out of it (no tracks open). Save your money and purchase some state side track time in the spring
Just my 2 cents
Just my 2 cents
#21
I am starting to write a detailed blog about each step of Euro Delivery.
One thing that you must keep in mind is that Euro Del is super cool in terms of concept - but real world issues do mean you have to REALLY want to do it. It takes a tremendous amount of time to plan the entire trip. There are issues to contend with such as paying for the car weeks in advance / financing difficulties / up-fronting an additional tax 17% VAT (possibly) / and of course the delay in getting the car back. Bottom line - its harder than you think, and its more expensive than you think.
And, you must ask yourself; are the NET benefits gained worth the cost and effort?
Driving a Porsche is Euro is NOT a net benefit as you can easily do that on Porsche Tour or with a Porsche Rental car.
Driving YOUR GT4 in the Alps or a Nurburgring ring IS a net benefit that most enjoy. But, because of your winter delivery timeframe, it will not benefit you as the most interesting tracks and Alps passes are closed for the winter.
Would I take delivery of my GT4 in Chicago in the middle of winter for a driving "experience". No way. My advice is to pass on the winter Euro Delivery in a GT4.
Then, with the money you save, book a cool Euro vacation early this fall or in the late spring 2016 , take a trip to the Nurburgring, and have Sabine Schmitz personally teach you how to drive fast on the ring using RSRs GT4.
One thing that you must keep in mind is that Euro Del is super cool in terms of concept - but real world issues do mean you have to REALLY want to do it. It takes a tremendous amount of time to plan the entire trip. There are issues to contend with such as paying for the car weeks in advance / financing difficulties / up-fronting an additional tax 17% VAT (possibly) / and of course the delay in getting the car back. Bottom line - its harder than you think, and its more expensive than you think.
And, you must ask yourself; are the NET benefits gained worth the cost and effort?
Driving a Porsche is Euro is NOT a net benefit as you can easily do that on Porsche Tour or with a Porsche Rental car.
Driving YOUR GT4 in the Alps or a Nurburgring ring IS a net benefit that most enjoy. But, because of your winter delivery timeframe, it will not benefit you as the most interesting tracks and Alps passes are closed for the winter.
Would I take delivery of my GT4 in Chicago in the middle of winter for a driving "experience". No way. My advice is to pass on the winter Euro Delivery in a GT4.
Then, with the money you save, book a cool Euro vacation early this fall or in the late spring 2016 , take a trip to the Nurburgring, and have Sabine Schmitz personally teach you how to drive fast on the ring using RSRs GT4.
#22
Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel
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Thanks for all the input and comments everyone! I am thinking twice about this all... Having a brand new PTS GT car slosh through the snow is not an appealing scenario. Particularly when the car will never see snow in it's life and going to be pampered quite a bit! This way I can also have my clear paint protection specialist protect from day 1.
I might just do an Octoberfest trip, book a race car to run the Ring', see about getting a factory tour and get delivery of the GT4 at my dealer.
BTW, is there an option for Atlanta headquarters delivery, like BMW has at the Performance center in Spartanburg, SC?
Eduardo, Riviera Blue (best PTS color IMO)
I might just do an Octoberfest trip, book a race car to run the Ring', see about getting a factory tour and get delivery of the GT4 at my dealer.
BTW, is there an option for Atlanta headquarters delivery, like BMW has at the Performance center in Spartanburg, SC?
Eduardo, Riviera Blue (best PTS color IMO)
#24
#25
As for 'Riviera Blue', you simply can not go wrong choosing this color for your Porsche sport car!
Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel
.
#27
Reid: My guess is that he could keep his allocation, his built date, his PTS and all the rest...just not take delivery via 'ED' and make it normal dealer delivery stateside. PAG would probably prefer that anyway since their limited 'factory delivery' facility is heavily utilized by German & other European customers taking possession of their cars at Zuffenhausen & not at their local dealers. So space is at a premium on any given day at the rather small factory delivery area allocated to this function.
Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel
Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel
#28
I may get a royal RL beating for saying this, but we've seen so many PTS Mexico and Riviera blue cars over the past several years, these colors just don't seem quite as special to me any longer. And judging from its recent popularity, I might suggest voodoo is next to follow.
#29
There still aren't many in the PTS Mexico, Riviera, Voodoo. I'd be fun to play around on the PTS scale and maybe come up with a good alternative.. You'll still be only a handful and to pull Riviera that is pretty cool.
Working on a ED for a nice guy on a GT3 RS. We have a travel agency - Yes, they still are around. & will be working on planning trips. I'd say this time of yr the window has closed in Europe.
Anyone look into a clear bra installer in europe? That is the other issue I have- stateside if I get a new porsche. I'm adding the clearbra and paint correction straight from the dealer floor down the street to the pros.
Working on a ED for a nice guy on a GT3 RS. We have a travel agency - Yes, they still are around. & will be working on planning trips. I'd say this time of yr the window has closed in Europe.
Anyone look into a clear bra installer in europe? That is the other issue I have- stateside if I get a new porsche. I'm adding the clearbra and paint correction straight from the dealer floor down the street to the pros.