718 GT4?
#991
Much as I would love to see a GT4 RS, I don't believe it will happen. The simple reason is that the GT4 CS will exist and, despite the likelihood of no additional power and having the same engine, it kind of fits in a spot where an RS may lie, and which is likely priced at or below a base GT3. What can I say, other than I hope I am wrong.
#992
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Much as I would love to see a GT4 RS, I don't believe it will happen. The simple reason is that the GT4 CS will exist and, despite the likelihood of no additional power and having the same engine, it kind of fits in a spot where an RS may lie, and which is likely priced at or below a base GT3. What can I say, other than I hope I am wrong.
Porsche would need to add more options to the manual GT4 then just PDK to have the ***** to call it a RS.... And i cant see porsche adding a carbon bonnet/fenders or magnesium roof for the sake of Pricing it higher next to 911 territory.
#993
Logically, Porsche will come out with a manual 718 GT4. It will have all the good stuff already on it. Thereby making it the top cayman and hard to improve on.
Porsche would need to add more options to the manual GT4 then just PDK to have the ***** to call it a RS.... And i cant see porsche adding a carbon bonnet/fenders or magnesium roof for the sake of Pricing it higher next to 911 territory.
Porsche would need to add more options to the manual GT4 then just PDK to have the ***** to call it a RS.... And i cant see porsche adding a carbon bonnet/fenders or magnesium roof for the sake of Pricing it higher next to 911 territory.
Add stiffer springs, re-tuned shocks, and a flashy color with decals for good measure (maybe even fender flares and wider wheels/track). Not expensive for Porsche to build and a guaranteed audience with a higher price.
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I'm pretty sure that people would be interested in a GT4 RS that simply added PDK-S and more power (just less de-tuning from the 520hp potential is easy). BTW, I am pretty sure that the GT3 (although released first) has the same engine as RS with 20hp and higher peak power rpm electronically tuned out of it...
Add stiffer springs, re-tuned shocks, and a flashy color with decals for good measure (maybe even fender flares and wider wheels/track). Not expensive for Porsche to build and a guaranteed audience with a higher price.
Add stiffer springs, re-tuned shocks, and a flashy color with decals for good measure (maybe even fender flares and wider wheels/track). Not expensive for Porsche to build and a guaranteed audience with a higher price.
Porsche would have to add different shocks and body upgrades to the GT4 to warranty "RS" badges at which point the car "might" become too expensive to market for such a small limted run.
It would be really cool however.
#996
Logically, Porsche will come out with a manual 718 GT4. It will have all the good stuff already on it. Thereby making it the top cayman and hard to improve on.
Porsche would need to add more options to the manual GT4 then just PDK to have the ***** to call it a RS.... And i cant see porsche adding a carbon bonnet/fenders or magnesium roof for the sake of Pricing it higher next to 911 territory.
Porsche would need to add more options to the manual GT4 then just PDK to have the ***** to call it a RS.... And i cant see porsche adding a carbon bonnet/fenders or magnesium roof for the sake of Pricing it higher next to 911 territory.
Never say never.
They could do a bunch of things and someone will buy it: fenders, hood, PDK-S, CLs (), CS wing, forged wheels, power bump, LWBs, no rubber in suspension, etc, etc, all std.
Not saying it would happen but if a business case can be made; who knows.
#997
Much as I would love to see a GT4 RS, I don't believe it will happen. The simple reason is that the GT4 CS will exist and, despite the likelihood of no additional power and having the same engine, it kind of fits in a spot where an RS may lie, and which is likely priced at or below a base GT3. What can I say, other than I hope I am wrong.
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It could very well hurt the non RS GT4 by making it looked sand bagged..... thereby having customers hold out for something better or not neccessaryly be as excited for the 718 GT4.
Also, do they have time to put out a 2019 GT4 this fall and sell them ALL up as a 2019 model and then find a window of time to lauch a GT4 RS before the 2019 model cut off without hurting potential GT4 sales?
#1000
Thanks for the response. Your comment on the GT2RS engine is interesting considering Porsche claimed a two turbo flat 6 won’t fit in the 982 chasis... also seems late in the game for a mule with a flat 4 in a mule, as that was only a few weeks ago. You stated things change, so Maybe that means the decision isn’t made yet?
For mass production, maybe it doesn't 'fit'
For a gear head engineer that wants to experiment, 'fit' is a completely new meaning.
Look no farther than the old American hot rods, it still 'fit' even when half the body work is cut away to make room, doesn't mean that car will be practical or durable.
We also didn't think a fact 6 engine could 'fit' in front of the rear axle, but Porsche did it and made the RSR.
#1001
It's not possible for an engineer to just spend a few hours on this and drop in a 3.8TT for giggles, they'd have to spend considerable resources on it. It would be out of character.
#1002
^^^ I've been saying this for a while now regarding fitment. It's easy to say it "doesn't fit" to steer people away but the original Carrera S motor didn't originally fit in the 981 either . Porsche can make it work if there is a financial argument. I hope the next gt4 is a 4.0 NA but I just can't see it happening looking at the big picture. I hope I'm wrong because I want that car despite what it will do to my current car's value.
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^^^ I've been saying this for a while now regarding fitment. It's easy to say it "doesn't fit" to steer people away but the original Carrera S motor didn't originally fit in the 981 either . Porsche can make it work if there is a financial argument. I hope the next gt4 is a 4.0 NA but I just can't see it happening looking at the big picture. I hope I'm wrong because I want that car despite what it will do to my current car's value.
If porsche is in fact testing flat 6 turbos in the 718 body, they are for sure mounting the turbos and plumbing etc elsewhere in and around the engine bay for temporary use as it would require alot of redesign from the Carrera motor given the length the turbos added to the engine.
#1004
^^ 100% agree but nothing is impossible and there may be an engineering argument to re-plumb and rework an existing motor configuration versus dumbing down a 4.0 L NA motor. The horsepower numbers of the current turbo S motor may meet the GT4's recipe as it did the first time around.
So much speculation on this topic and my guess is Porsche are mainly responsible for the leaks to date.
So much speculation on this topic and my guess is Porsche are mainly responsible for the leaks to date.
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^^ 100% agree but nothing is impossible and there may be an engineering argument to re-plumb and rework an existing motor configuration versus dumbing down a 4.0 L NA motor. The horsepower numbers of the current turbo S motor may meet the GT4's recipe as it did the first time around.
So much speculation on this topic and my guess is Porsche are mainly responsible for the leaks to date.
So much speculation on this topic and my guess is Porsche are mainly responsible for the leaks to date.
It will be close to the 981 GT4 design and have enough power to run GT4 on the international circuit.