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Old 03-16-2018, 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by RRDnA
I'll let Mark Webber, Brendan Hartley and Earl Bamber know your thoughts .

From my perspective it doesn't change a thing - the GT Dept. is the Motorsport Dept. PDK is optimal for motorsport, if the GT4 comes without PDK its not optimized for my required usage and as a consequence I won't be buying one. Nothing wrong with the manual but it doesn't offer what I want. Not interested in GT4CS as its LHD and can't be road registered. Ipso facto.

The ROW US view doesn't change the fact that 75% of GT3s were sold as PDK equipped vehicles and clearly many of those went to markets that are high profit centres.

I really don't think my request is particularly hard to justify.
What type of event are you doing? Targa rally or other?
I get what you are saying about the PDK for the street car to keep it more in line as a race car. However Porsche focus on building factory race cars for a large market of sanctioned race customers and road going GT cars for road only customers. . The in between is a very small market. They offer the street clubsport package to fullfill that in between.

Some folks take the "in between" cars and further develop them for one off make series.

You could always swap a PDK into a GT4 since you are already developing the car for your competition series. If the rules allow for it of course.

Porsche generally like to see the GT3RS with clubsport option used in motorsports when possible. Hence PDK only.

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Old 03-16-2018, 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by 911F1
If the 718 GT4 does receive the 4.0l motor from the 991.2 GT3. What do you think Porsche will do to de-tune it?
same thing they did to the last GT4. Small throttle body and software.
Old 03-16-2018, 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by tkbr0wn
Interesting, here is current GT4 at as close to the same angle as I could get. Doesn't seem like enough room to get to even the same red line, much less a higher one.
There you go. Current GT4 on right, the number 2 mark on the left pic seem to be sitting higher.
Old 03-16-2018, 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by ExMB
Yeah, the claim of 430hp in a spyder versus the guesses of 420hp for the GT4 are a sign that someone is dreaming, copying internet forum rumors. Unless they are hinting at a GT4RS since the previous GT4 had 15hp more than the previous spyder.
Both will be the same unless they do something crazy like make the Spyder run the Cayman GTS turbo motor...
There will be no RS version of GT4 as there are enough variants of the Cayman line and the GT4 is their be all end all.
Old 03-16-2018, 01:03 AM
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you guys are some super sleuths.
Old 03-16-2018, 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by nxfedlt1
you guys are some super sleuths.




what is amazes me is the amount of people anticipating this next car! People are going bonkers for it and Porsche know/love it!
Old 03-16-2018, 02:40 AM
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Originally Posted by James88


There you go. Current GT4 on right, the number 2 mark on the left pic seem to be sitting higher.
Your angles aren't the same. Look at the center of the needle... The GT4 the center is almost entirely exposed, where the Spyder is half concealed... Also the shift indicator is not the same.
Old 03-16-2018, 03:16 AM
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I love the enhanced photos. Very CSI
Old 03-16-2018, 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by James88


There you go. Current GT4 on right, the number 2 mark on the left pic seem to be sitting higher.
Angles are not the same. Need to tilt a little more. If you did that, I would think they would be identical.
Old 03-16-2018, 03:25 AM
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My cars in for a service, ready Monday. Anyone else like to to try some different angle shots ?
Old 03-16-2018, 03:56 AM
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Unless someone manages to replicate the exact angle on their car, the comparison is fairly inconclusive because we're only talking about the second digit and there isn't much difference at that point between 718 and 981 anyway. I would say 70/30 it's closer to 981 but wouldn't bet my life on it having looked at some similar-but-not-quite shots of the 718 dash at an angle.

What is certain, though, is that there will be no 9K RPM redline. 8K tops, which I suppose was expected anyway but good to be able to put at least one option to rest.
Old 03-16-2018, 06:17 AM
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Also, they could be using a tachometer that won't be in the final GT4 product, e.g. the normal 718 S or GTS tach, which goes to 8, instead of the GT4 tach, which goes to 9.
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Originally Posted by Yargk
Also, they could be using a tachometer that won't be in the final GT4 product, e.g. the normal 718 S or GTS tach, which goes to 8, instead of the GT4 tach, which goes to 9.
Possible but very unlikely. These cars are most probably exactly the way they're going to be sold, down to the white needles for the gauges.
Old 03-16-2018, 11:30 AM
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I think he was trying to say - draw a horizontal line from the center of the tach across to the left - shows the 2 on the 718 is higher (to my eyes). Don’t think the angle would matter - but that’s why I’m not an engineer.
Old 03-16-2018, 11:37 AM
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With that many very closely taken pictures of cars obviously on the move, the photographer (who realistically should be at least a little educated about cars) should be able to tell if there's a turbo 4 or an N/A 6 in that Spyder. It is really hard NOT to tell the difference, even on idle from 30-40m away...


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