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Old Jan 3, 2019 | 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ajw45
Assuming it is true, I'd be curious to know why the street and race car engines are different. Emissions? Taxes? Costs? Homologation? Is there such a gulf between the consumer market demands and the gt4 class needs that the two cars need to be different in order to be competitive? If anyone can comment without giving away the details on the final product that would be cool....
I might have missed this info somewhere but....Where do you get the info it will be different?
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Old Jan 3, 2019 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Whoopsy
Nope.

At times I feel sorry for myself too. Especially when Porsche changed stuff after and things didn't come out as I was told.

There had been so many changes last minute that even I am confused and mixed up. What was scheduled and on track isn't anymore. What was rejected is now back one the board, etc.

Tom had been pretty spot on, he had 2 cars on order from a while ago and he is racing them, so was tight and pretty much in talks with them everyday.
I know....it's a bit frustrating to be shown something and later everything is changed. I guess we will all have to wait till Geneva....
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Old Jan 3, 2019 | 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ajw45
Assuming it is true, I'd be curious to know why the street and race car engines are different. Emissions? Taxes? Costs? Homologation? Is there such a gulf between the consumer market demands and the gt4 class needs that the two cars need to be different in order to be competitive? If anyone can comment without giving away the details on the final product that would be cool....
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Old Jan 3, 2019 | 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris3963
Street car is completely different engine. You will be surprised but still no PDK.
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I might have missed this info somewhere but....Where do you get the info it will be different?
That plus CJ and others have hinted with some ambiguity that the CS and streetcar could have different engines....
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Old Jan 3, 2019 | 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Whoopsy
While the CS uses the street car's PDK, 7th gear is locked out again, something I don't think 3rd party tuner can do.
IIRC even in a street version PDK 7th gear was electronicly locked by using Sport Plus. How is that different from the CS version which is locked into Sport Plus AFAIK?

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Old Jan 3, 2019 | 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by MarcD147
BOP
That would make sense to me if the race car needed more power to hit the bop target. Otherwise, if the streetcar engine was in fact more powerful, Porsche could just detune it to meet the bop target just like mb and mac?
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Old Jan 3, 2019 | 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by BGB Motorsports
Somehow somewhere someone saw this car with the engine cover off, saw the GT3 intake and yelled 4.0L!!! And the world hasn't been the same since. ???♀
John,

I have to make an observation about the new engine reveal. In 2016 I saw you pull the engine out of your perfectly good brand new GT4, and asked what the heck are you doing! You explained that you are installing an X51 kit, which required the disassembly of the engine. I saw the engine in pieces, and thought to myself at the time - that is just crazy for a few more horsepower who in their right mind would do such a thing? And, today, it appears that Porsche has once again followed your lead. This is not the first time.

- Before there was a GT4, there was a BGB 3.8 transplanted into a 987.
- Before there was a PDK equipped racing Clubsport, there was a BGB PDK race car.
and now...
- Before there was a 718 Clubsport 3.8 X51, there was a BGB X51 converted GT4.

Always 2 years, and 2 steps ahead. Are you really a secret agent for Porsche?





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Old Jan 3, 2019 | 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ajw45
That plus CJ and others have hinted with some ambiguity that the CS and streetcar could have different engines....
and Whoopsy, who at the time had the best and latest intel was wrong about some things.......I think CJ comment is based on someone asking about the 3.0 liter turbo engine.....Corporate and marketing logic doesn't support too well the idea of a different engine, besides a few changes to this version of the 9A1.
Would love to get my hands on the FIA/RACB/SRO homologation sheet for the GT4......that would give us the info on the basis for the CS engine and if SRO made any concessions to the race car for BoP.
We also have to look at the weight/hp formula for GT4 class....if this car is at the limit don't expect a more powerful engine on the street car
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Old Jan 3, 2019 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ajw45
That would make sense to me if the race car needed more power to hit the bop target. Otherwise, if the streetcar engine was in fact more powerful, Porsche could just detune it to meet the bop target just like mb and mac?
BoP is done through weight, inlet restriction (or boost) and restriction of downforce......cars are tested by professional drivers of SRO in France and then are compared to the group before deciding on the formula to equalize competition.
Porsche GT4 CS is basically the standard that SRO was using....at least when it entered GT4.
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Old Jan 3, 2019 | 10:52 PM
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There is a track day car as base model with street car brake booster. Then a competition car with dual master brake system and adustable shocks for one make series racing. The SRO car has all the carbon fiber panels.

The track day car should be available to anybody looking for a trailer only track car.

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so...the "Trackday" version at 134,000 Euro. is this going to be available to individuals or will there be a commitment to club race?
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Old Jan 3, 2019 | 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3
If they don't offer a PDK version of the street car there is no sense in me buying a 718 GT4.
there will be a PDK street car.
The 981 manual might very well be the last of the manual GT4.
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Old Jan 3, 2019 | 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by tcsracing1
there will be a PDK street car.
The 981 manual might very well be the last of the manual GT4.
Whoa! Ok this is a big bombshell. I hope this is true then lll save some money this year.
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Old Jan 3, 2019 | 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by tcsracing1


there will be a PDK street car.
The 981 manual might very well be the last of the manual GT4.
Very interesting. Good for 981 values!
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Old Jan 3, 2019 | 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by LordLucan
The road car can (and possibly will) have a different engine to the race car. Rather fishy delay / unusual sequencing of the release of the race car and road car.
street car gets same motor as race car.
Porsche decided to build the race car first. Then the street car to follow.
Race on sunday, sell on monday concept.
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Old Jan 3, 2019 | 11:08 PM
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To the teams that received your cars today, congratulations. I'm sure it was a busy, exciting, and fulfilling day. And you all still took time to contribute to this community, which is greatly appreciated. Thanks for that.
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