718 GT4?
#3646
That was my point. Your brain re-calibrates the limits on those roads to account for the much smaller room for error. What feels like 10/10ths there would be equivalent to <8/10ths on the track. We all do this subconscious re-calibration. Those who don't, usually don't survive to write about it.
This is where the inputs from the co-driver are all important - a good co-driver with good pace notes, who has done lots of recce ultimately governs a drivers overall pace e.g. The difference between crest 100 8r and crest 100 3r is about 100kmh - the former you'll be flat, the latter you'll be set to brake hard - if you didn't have a co-driver all you would see is the approaching crest.
Long story short - a co-driver de-risks an event and gets you 10/10ths.
I think its about 3-4kg per actuator system (ZF AKC) so around 6-8kg low down.
Last edited by groundhog; 10-15-2018 at 11:56 PM.
#3647
I agree with groundhog these rallies are driven close to the cars limit. Usually there is one car totaled each day and people have died. Most teams have a mobile pit crew of mechanics.
I dont do them as they are too dangerous because I know I would only drive at 10/10ths like at the track. After years pushing the car to the absolute max its hard not to continue that...
I dont do them as they are too dangerous because I know I would only drive at 10/10ths like at the track. After years pushing the car to the absolute max its hard not to continue that...
#3648
#3651
so are we going to see it at LA end of next month? because i am seeing stuff like panamera GTS and sport turismo reveals................................................................. ........................................................................ ........................................................................ ..................................................................
#3652
BTW, I know there are some 981 owning 718 haters out there that seem to hate anything about the upcoming car. I think from the photo above, the 718 GT4 is looking damn good! I personally prefer the updates and changes.
#3654
On track it would be 30-40 minutes of lapping depending on fuel tank size and session time. I wouldnt call it "sprints" as it is open lapping in a street car. Typically 2 hours total track time for the day.
On a road rally (which there are only a handful of serious tarmac rallys in the world) the transits are regular street driving and the stages are not as long or as repetitive as a 30-40 minute lapping session.
It appears it takes a track with alot of steering input and little time for the system to rest to cook it..... Has to be the perfect storm which is not common thankfully.
Autoquest have devoloped a multilink style rear suspension for the GT4. Very interesting piece of kit.
On a road rally (which there are only a handful of serious tarmac rallys in the world) the transits are regular street driving and the stages are not as long or as repetitive as a 30-40 minute lapping session.
It appears it takes a track with alot of steering input and little time for the system to rest to cook it..... Has to be the perfect storm which is not common thankfully.
Autoquest have devoloped a multilink style rear suspension for the GT4. Very interesting piece of kit.
#3655
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Has anyone tested or used the GT4 with the Autoquest multilink suspension? Isn't this one of the holy grails for the car? At 10k plus installed, it certainly is going to be a significant outlay. It may be worth it... at least on the track. For sporty driving on the street?
#3656
I drove 5 laps on it around Road America having been in TCS's Clubsport all week. I have to say though that what blew me away were the AP brakes on the car. It had the calipers and rotors from AP but the pads I think were Ferodo. The car had all Stage I power upgrades in the form of headers, IPD, BMC filters and our custom tune.
#3660