Agree hard to tell..does the wing look finished too?
the end caps look glossy

 

great, a new photo! Less camo, ready for a release?
Hopefully this stops the extended RWS debate...

 

 

 

 

The tires are some form of sticky DOT Pirellis that are readily available in 19" so these cars can go out and get pounded on.
The RWS when working hard can overheat. This has happened to more then one RS at the local track on the west coast. So they deleted it.
On the east coast I have not seen any RS having the same issue.....

When you are driving the car hard every weekend at the track and you have RWS issues from excessive heat, you delete it and give the car a track alignment.

It depends on your driving ability, track and average time spent on track.

I dont think a hill climb would affect it.
I raced Pikes Peak this year and barely used two or my 3 sets of tires. So doubtful a RWS car would cook the pumps.

The GT4 wouldnt benefit with RWS.

 

 

How hard do you run your car?

One of the guys at our track, he runs a .1 GT3RS. He goes through a set of tires every weekend, aka 2 days, and a completely brake job every 2 weekends. That's how hard the car is being run at the track.

Are you even close to that? BTW track is 3 miles long 16 corners.

RWS is proven to be faster on short stints, like a trying for lap records at the Ring or something, or causal lapping on track days. But when you pound a car to bits like this guy, the less moving parts the better.

 

You guys at Area 27 really do drive your cars! This is where i first heard of the RWS delete on the 991.RS! Serious drivers!

 

On track, sprints; on road, national/state level road rallying (which means between 2 and 6 days of non-stop driving), plus other stuff too. So harder than most.

RAS is unequivocally quicker in sprints, doesn't fail in road rallying (distance up to ~ 800km, how does ~30km of stage with 120 corners sound, the run offs are trees and rocks, the roads are mixed and down to single lane).............I have no doubt you can break RAS, in motorsport you can break anything - it doesn't mean its poor or problem. In the majority of cases the positives far outweigh the negatives.

Shame there aren't any further developments wrt GT4s - however personally, I'm finding the RAS discussion interesting, but won't be deleting it anytime soon.

 

That only suggests that you can't drive anywhere near 8/10ths on those roads.

 

Thats not the case.

You drive to the level of grip that your tires allow and you do that for 10 hours a day, for up to six days (in that case the total distance is over 1000kms). You hit corners fast, you brake hard, as hard as you do on track and the cars take a lot more punishment overall. Moreover, the number of tires you're allowed is limited and there is less room for error - much less. Track is relatively easy (and I do both, and enjoy both).

You have given me an idea for a new badge tho - 8/10ths

 

That was my point. Your brain re-calibrates the limits on those roads to account for the much smaller room for error. What feels like 10/10ths there would be equivalent to <8/10ths on the track. We all do this subconscious re-calibration. Those who don't, usually don't survive to write about it.

 

On track it would be 30-40 minutes of lapping depending on fuel tank size and session time. I wouldnt call it "sprints" as it is open lapping in a street car. Typically 2 hours total track time for the day.
On a road rally (which there are only a handful of serious tarmac rallys in the world) the transits are regular street driving and the stages are not as long or as repetitive as a 30-40 minute lapping session.

It appears it takes a track with alot of steering input and little time for the system to rest to cook it..... Has to be the perfect storm which is not common thankfully.

Autoquest have devoloped a multilink style rear suspension for the GT4. Very interesting piece of kit.