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Old 02-02-2017, 12:23 PM
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I like Summit main (not Jefferson).
Old 02-02-2017, 12:25 PM
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Worth noting - one of the guys from my Daytona24 team turned me on to using this software: https://virtualracingschool.com/

Free and works pretty damned well. A simplified telemetry viewer - lets you overlay your laps against themselves or against others on your "team".

Runs in the background automatically.

If any of you sign up, shoot me your email address and I'll get you added to the Rennlist "team" within VRS so we can see/share data.
Old 02-02-2017, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by OmniGLH
I like Summit main (not Jefferson).
Me too.
Old 02-02-2017, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by OmniGLH
We run every Wednesday night. Same time. I don't think we've decided on the next track yet. Suggestions/preferences?

So far we've run Daytona, Barber, NJMP, Mosport, Sebring, Road Atlanta, Road America, Laguna, Lime Rock, and Watkins.

We were talking about some Rovals (Charlotte/Phoenix/California/Homestead) or maybe going International (Spa, Nurb GP, etc.)

Nice job last night. The car is definitely challenging, front lockup happens a lot. I messed around a lot with bias and pressure to keep it balanced, and it definitely seems to take a light foot on the pedal to keep it under control. I use a LOT less brake effort in this car than I do in others.

And I understand the anxiety over the new wheel - I'm waiting for an OSW myself. Was supposed to ship two Fridays ago, then was pushed to Monday, I asked him to hold off until this just past Monday (so it wouldn't sit on my porch while I was in Daytona)... and now, silence. It'll get here soon enough I suppose, but it should be any day now.
Thanks. How about Imola (one of my favs) or Donington/Oulton Park?

Yeah i've been playing around with the brake bias. I am fairly hard on the brakes so its taking some adjustment. I have the bias around 46 now.

Congrats on the new OSW. I'm sure it will be great when you get it.
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Let's try summit.
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Originally Posted by hsmith
Thanks. How about Imola (one of my favs) or Donington/Oulton Park?

Yeah i've been playing around with the brake bias. I am fairly hard on the brakes so its taking some adjustment. I have the bias around 46 now.

Congrats on the new OSW. I'm sure it will be great when you get it.
I wound up at 44.2 last night after 2 spins. Was at 44.0 and comfortable until I dropped the two rear tires by 0.5psi - that seemed to destabilize the rear end a little (almost like it was "hopping", noticed the rear end dancing around a bit more on the brakes than usual - spring effect of the softer carcass?) At any rate I tend to run a bit more rear bias than most folks, most of the time. I seem to be better at catching a rear slide, than recovering from a front lockup.

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Let's try summit.
Sounds good to me.

Imola is actually a kick *** track, I always forget about that one. Maybe we aim for Imola week after next?
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That works. Do you race on Sunday too or just Wednesday?
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We used to hold practice for a few hours every Sunday. We haven't done it in awhile, not sure why.

I imagine if you put together a hosted session, some people will show up. Sundays are either packed with honey-do lists, or I'm wasting away farting around on the simulator or watching TV... so there's a 50/50 shot I'd make it.
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Had trouble all night with the brakes, weird because I have them dialled in on the Ring, same setting would not work was spinning like a top for the first 30 minutes. Started playing with the adjustment on the pedals, think I just need to practise more. Good fun as usual though.
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Originally Posted by OmniGLH
I wound up at 44.2 last night after 2 spins. Was at 44.0 and comfortable until I dropped the two rear tires by 0.5psi - that seemed to destabilize the rear end a little (almost like it was "hopping", noticed the rear end dancing around a bit more on the brakes than usual - spring effect of the softer carcass?) At any rate I tend to run a bit more rear bias than most folks, most of the time. I seem to be better at catching a rear slide, than recovering from a front lockup.



Sounds good to me.

Imola is actually a kick *** track, I always forget about that one. Maybe we aim for Imola week after next?
im actually using 43.7 for brake bias .. I just checked and not sure why I said 46. I may even try more rear bias.
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Originally Posted by hsmith
im actually using 43.7 for brake bias .. I just checked and not sure why I said 46. I may even try more rear bias.
Yeah I try a bunch of various settings, from down in the 42's to where I've wound up.

In my own testing, it seems to be a trade off, there's no magic number. I know in the RUF Track, 42.7 is the number. Set it there and the car feels great everywhere. Every track, every condition, every turn.

In the Cup, it seems that you can "fix" one thing (say, straight line braking and/or front lockup) with a low 40s balance, but then F yourself on turn-in because the rear will want to chase and you can't trail-brake at all. Go to a higher number, and you can trail-brake, and get some stability back, but can't brake as hard or as deep without locking the front.

Really seems like this is gonna be a "per track" setting, based on driving style, bumps, etc.

I landed on 44, as it keeps me stable and lets me trail brake. I just have to be somewhat gentle on the pedal and plan to brake slightly early. Can't go as deep before braking, nor as aggressively, as I can with other cars. Have to eeeaaase in to them. TBH I do credit having a good pedal set to let me do this (HE Pro's). I think if I was on my old homebuilt setup (or worse, like G27s) there's no way I'd be able to trail brake and be as sensitive.
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Originally Posted by OmniGLH
Yeah I try a bunch of various settings, from down in the 42's to where I've wound up.

In my own testing, it seems to be a trade off, there's no magic number. I know in the RUF Track, 42.7 is the number. Set it there and the car feels great everywhere. Every track, every condition, every turn.

In the Cup, it seems that you can "fix" one thing (say, straight line braking and/or front lockup) with a low 40s balance, but then F yourself on turn-in because the rear will want to chase and you can't trail-brake at all. Go to a higher number, and you can trail-brake, and get some stability back, but can't brake as hard or as deep without locking the front.

Really seems like this is gonna be a "per track" setting, based on driving style, bumps, etc.

I landed on 44, as it keeps me stable and lets me trail brake. I just have to be somewhat gentle on the pedal and plan to brake slightly early. Can't go as deep before braking, nor as aggressively, as I can with other cars. Have to eeeaaase in to them. TBH I do credit having a good pedal set to let me do this (HE Pro's). I think if I was on my old homebuilt setup (or worse, like G27s) there's no way I'd be able to trail brake and be as sensitive.
I think you're right. It will probably be a track by track setting. Its hard for me to transition to not braking as hard with this car as i like to use the brakes hard in other cars. I too am using HE pro's which is also taking some time to adjust to. I formally had Team ARC pedals which were much firmer. I just need to practice more
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Originally Posted by hsmith
I think you're right. It will probably be a track by track setting. Its hard for me to transition to not braking as hard with this car as i like to use the brakes hard in other cars. I too am using HE pro's which is also taking some time to adjust to. I formally had Team ARC pedals which were much firmer. I just need to practice more
Ok here is a photo of how I have the bumpers configured:



I'll get you the configuration #'s in a bit. To me, this setup feels perfect, with just enough deadzone as you "push the pads to the rotor", the brakes start to apply right about the same time as the pedal starts to firm up.
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Anybody using the new Fanatec V3 pedals?
Old 02-03-2017, 03:29 PM
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I think Phil is?


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