Originally Posted by Hunky

No need to get your get your nuts twisted and take a swing at anybody that does not share your sentiments.
My daily is a mild hybrid. Would that make me half as good as you? LOL.
Its all good Dude and enjoy your EV just don't take the bridge in 10 years when they are not the only new vehicles sold.

Originally Posted by OncPorsche

not even sure why you’re coming at me when I’m pro city dweller/daily commuter EV, pro petrol and pro cars worthy of a p badge. They all have their place.

Luxury EVs are in a tough spot. And performance luxury cars even tougher. It’s easy to make a MB/Audi daily boring EV such but you better make it engaging to slap a P on it. The base models are always going to be dull but I think the base cayenne is undriveable. the “turbo” cayenne EV that comes out will likely be around 175k or more, with a 50% dep almost the second you take it off the lot.

in excited for it. Count me out on buying a new one but maybe used 1st gen. But as I’ve said before and I believe even p confirmed. Petrok cayenne has at least 10 years of life left. Thank goodness.

Originally Posted by aggie57

Calm down mate, I'm not 'taking a swing' at anyone. Maybe my Australian way of making a point slipped by to the keeper.

In the 15 years I've been on Rennlist I've never seen as much nonsense as we're seeing now around this whole EV question, it's crazy how personal it's got at times.

Originally Posted by Hunky

50% depreciation in one year is retarded. If true then that vehicle will not be viable as no one in their right mind would buy new even though we are being gaslight into believing that a wholesale, rapid rotation from ICE to EV is underway. EVs are fine if they meet your needs but are clearly no where near ready for widespread adoption anytime soon.
There was a thread here recently about a fellow who took a 50% hit on a Mercedes EQS in a matter of like 6 months, absolutely crazy depreciation. Hard pass on any or all of that nonsense.

Originally Posted by Hunky

50% depreciation in one year is retarded. If true then that vehicle will not be viable as no one in their right mind would buy new even though we are being gaslight into believing that a wholesale, rapid rotation from ICE to EV is underway. EVs are fine if they meet your needs but are clearly no where near ready for widespread adoption anytime soon.
There was a thread here recently about a fellow who took a 50% hit on a Mercedes EQS in a matter of like 6 months, absolutely crazy depreciation. Hard pass on any or all of that nonsense.

Originally Posted by OncPorsche

absolutely. Believe I saw something that ford was losing roughly 40k per lightning they were selling. We have just went about this totally wrong and should’ve focused on just smaller commuter cars and niche luxury ones.

Originally Posted by Hunky

Originally Posted by Ron.s

Mercedes made a big mistake...either with research or lack of it on SUV EV's. They also seem to have diverted too much resource to EV's at the expense of ICE SUV's. I just traded a problematic 2024 GLE 63S (after 6 months) for my incoming GTS. The Dealer quoted me a high trade value thinking I would wait 6 months to trade...took the offer. They have at least a 6 month supply of EQ's and a couple used that were returned after a few weeks for an ICE. My SA said he recommends leasing an EV.
There are a lot of reasons to avoid EV's and just as many people willing to defend them. A little like our Political climate today. Mutual respect seems to be in short supply!

Originally Posted by OncPorsche

absolutely. Believe I saw something that ford was losing roughly 40k per lightning they were selling. We have just went about this totally wrong and should’ve focused on just smaller commuter cars and niche luxury ones.