luv2sleep

Arrogant? Look who’s talking! Unless you own a Plaid, I bet the M3/5 weren’t even trying. Embarrassed? Hardly. Unless you own a Plaid, check your ego at the door and your tail between your legs.

George from MD

No way in hell I'd buy one. Period.

We use ours for long trips. And going electric would defeat the whole purpose of the car.

luv2sleep

I must say, everyone I know who own an EV likes them as a DD but a good majority find them boring. It’s an appliance on wheels and they can have it. I have to have fun every time I’m behind the wheel. To each his own.

OncPorsche

you again huh, My dd ev is 0-60 in <2.5s, silent killer. Not a plaid either. Tesla while they serve a dd purpose, aren’t luxury. To each their own.

GT3ZZZ

The technology isn't superior, it's a dead end like Betamax. Superior tech has demand pull from customers but EV doesn't, it's being forced on us by extremist politicians and the WEF combined with big subsidies. Maybe check out some big picture news on what's happening?

For me, the sound and smell and analogue feel and weight are the key points. If you like driving a giant washing machine that's great for you but not for many in here.

As for it costing you nothing, maybe you got lucky and rented it. If not, you'll have epic depreciation which will make the fuel costs look like pennies. The most insufferables of all are the EVangelista.

OncPorsche

im not hijacking the thread but these are the comments that let me know most peopl don’t know what they are talking about or im different. I could care less about saving the world or emissions etc. I travel so much for work not having to ever be at a gas station is great. I drive, charge and by the time I’m in done, I drive back. Car drives itself. I’m not touring evs as end all be all. It’s just perfect for a medium to moderate drive ev. Bought it after someone traded it in after 2000 miles and they took the dep hit. Probably worth what I paid for it (plus I got it at cost at the time of resale).

luv2sleep

So, you don’t drive the quickest EV!? Well, that’s no fun. Definitely don’t have the bragging rights that’s plastered all over your post. Just sayin’.Arrogance anyone?

Elucidus

I still really want a Taycan, but with the mix of purposes I have for my vehicles, I can't justify one. If I could mount a 2" trailer hitch to it - maybe.

OncPorsche

Tesla plaid isn’t the fastest ev…… Tesla (plaid inc) is below my luxury standard for a dd. It’s miserable inside. Again, not what this is about. Poor man’s fast ev. But they do serve a functional purpose.

OncPorsche

my advice and it goes for all people looking into evs. You need to know what you’re getting into and using it for. It’s not going to replace a 6 hour road trip family hauler (not yet) and if charging is a problem (not sure how it would be in 2024, everyone should have a charger at their house installed for <$500) you’re setting yourself up for failure. All new EVs have a massive dep hit so finding one with like 5-10k on it is perfect spot.

Elucidus

Thanks, I have a few thousand miles of experience driving EVs of various shapes and sizes, including towing a few different trailers with one. I have an 11kW charger at my house which is barely touched by my 2019 Cayenne E-Hybrid (3.6kW onboard charger ).

6 hours seems perfectly doable with a Taycan. That's one charge stop, and I usually stop every 2 hours or so for a number of reasons. Having a planned stop in hour 3 or 4 is OK by me.

Towing or carrying a roof box is what kills the idea of using an EV for me. I was considering a Taycan instead of a Cayenne, but that roofbox would have changed a 1 stop 6 hour drive into a 2 or 3 stop drive, with some of those stops having minimal charger coverage.

mafpolo

In Car & Driver today, "Gas-Powered Porsche Cayenne Will Reach 2030's, Keep V8 Engine Alive"

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a6...-hybrid-2030s/

Ron.s

Just off the cuff without much thought...
EV's are still bleeding edge tech with high obsolecence for some time to come...some 1-2 year old Taycans in my area have depreciated much more than ice...as much as 50%. Dealer inventory turn of EV's are running 2X to 3X ICE. Higher income folks probably prefer a new vehicle or a big discount on a CPO. Middle class market challenge is still the cost of a home setup and apartment dwellers with not enough chargers if any. A high percentage of pre 1970 neiborhoods require costly Power Co infrasture changes to supply the power. Homes/neighborhoods with 100 Amp systems will require huge costs to transition.
Infrastructure is almost non existent in rural America and as faster charging developes it will make existing units obsolete and unpopular since charging times will be greater.
Northern America faces range degradation in cold weather as well as lack of charging infrastructure.
Supply of power-we can't keep up with Electric Power peak demand now and the Green movement is pushing out Coal, Nuclear...NG next? Push in some states to ban NG Aplliances. I for one would look for alternatives when/if any proposed system requires off peak charging or drawing power from my EV to supplement the System.
Sure these issues can be resolved...someday probably at a very high cost. There's a reason that no one has developed a business plan outlining the total cost estimate of the EV transition...now required by Law. When EV mandates start hitting Joe Public's pocketbook, pushback might just swing the Political climate. Wealthy Porsche buyers in Metro areas might not have the best understanding of the total picture.
At present it appears the China has a good chance of dominating the non luxury EV market...just another increase of our Trade Deficit to a Communist Country.
Sometimes a poorly executed "good idea" can have serious unintended consequences, IMO. I'm not anti EV!

Hunky

Like these foundations under construction?

V999

I mean, we’re talking about SUVs here. So boring is okay, long as it’s capable and comfy.

But I have no desire for sedans of any kind and will never buy an EV sports car. Because, for me, an EV is absolutely boring and soulless as a sports car. I don’t care if it can go 0-60 so fast it time travels back to the past. If there’s no exhaust and no gears, then I find it boring. It took me like 2 minutes to decide to forego the PDK in my gt3 in favor of a manual which means giving up at least a half second in 0-60 time. Because driver engagement is what I value, not straight line speed.

But listen, if saving money and the sound of vacuum cleaner is what excites you, and it gives your middle finger a hard-on, then great - each to their own.

I like actually driving my cars and don’t care what it costs to do it. Maybe you could start a GoFundMe and we can donate to you so you can afford to drive a car with a soul?