Alnitak

That is a sweet, clean look!! Very nice!

Alnitak

I see...good considerations, and less difference than I thought. Given the limited options for the 21", think I will stick with the 20's for a while and see how they do. May just revisit this when I need to replace tires.
Thanks for taking time to share your insight.

Alnitak

Amen to that! Most certainly will be thanking the Man upstairs tonight!

Shuga

Let us know when it goes through! Congrats!

PorscheACC

Forget any badges, if the dealer sold it to you as a Cayenne S, they committed fraud, since they had the real built information about the vehicle.

Get a lawyer and that dealer is completely screwed..

The dealer has everything to lose for obviously committing fraud, not to mention the investigation that needs to follow to find out how many times the dealer did this to other scammed Porsche owners..

If it is a CPO, the dealer obviously used base Cayenne parts instead of Cayenne S parts to inspected, maintain it, fir oil change, and to prepare it for selling it..

Ironman88

You should probably read through this full thread...

icemang

That's funny, true,and well said.

PorscheACC

Funny statements. They are just classic luxury overpriced cars that have strong engines, brakes, and steering (electronics quality suck big time compared to other brands).. Porsche is not at the technology edge any more and sucks in customer service when large defects/problems are found.. If you buy just to impress, then you are what you want to be..

That makes, too, all mechanics who love Porsche that buy them and repair them royalty.. Good for them..

I remember when I had some of the first fancy Mercedes SUVs, they hugely suck big time in reliability & service and large number of mechanics got them for dirt cheap since they could easily repair them. They had a great deal and a great time with them..

My brand new then 2019 Cayenne S with about 100,000 miles is worth only about $32,000 down from $120,000 in just about 5 years.. so it is affordable by anybody..

No royalty or princes is needed to own Porsches..

Maybe only those who buy them brand new get hit by the overpriced luxury price tag, and then, they become affordable to anybody..

Shuga

That's why you lease.
Second not every can afford a Porsche, they can't afford the upkeep or insurance.

PorscheACC

Unless you are an automotive mechanic or know how to repair vehicles, which makes it not an issue at all.

There is not much difference between repairing/maintaining Porsche engines and that of many other brand engines and vehicles.. all have the same components/elements nowadays..

We Porsche owners way overpay on maintenance and repairs that high school kids are easily doing at school automotive technical classes for a fraction of the price.

Paying more for plain ignorance hasn't made anybody look smarter..

Woofman

LOL, have you done repairs and maintenance on Toyota and Lexus vehicles? So easy. Porsche dealership oil and filter change: $260 (apparently that's low). Toyota dealership oil and filter change: $63

luv2sleep

I agree. I grew up as my old man's little grease monkey. It was your average mom 'n pop garage. I was tasked with all of your usual routine maintenance items such as oil change, brakes, other fluid flushes, tires, etc. and occasionally helping out on more complex repairs. With the exception of modern electronics and computers, cars are cars are cars. The service departments at dealerships are huge revenue generators. I think a brake & rotor job is the number one money maker. A brake job is as easy it gets, as you know. With YouTube and other tutorials online, people just don't have an excuse anymore! Routine maintenance on modern cars are easier in most cases since time=money. For example, oil & filter change on a 911 is so easy that even a caveman can do it! I believe Porsche dealerships charge a few hundred dollars. On my R8, there are 5 oil drain plugs. It's basically 4 more than your average car! An oil & filter change at the dealership is well over $500. It literally takes longer to lift the car and remove the two protective shields than the job itself! It's simply GTO - Gas, Tires, and Oil! Scare tactics used by stealerships obviously work since there's a sucker born every minute. Savvy marketing and sales tactics are live and well even at the service department level. Gotta love capitalism!

sur5or

Hi OP

your messages make it sound like the “not really an “S”” car was “CPO’d” then auctioned by a Porsche dealer to the non-Porsche dealer that sold it to you? In that case I don’t think the CPO is valid and won’t be honored my Porsche…never mind that I don’t see how the badging issue would pass CPO in the first place.

maybe I have it wrong?

Shuga

You're talking about oil changes and brakes. The brakes on a Toyota don't cost the same as they do on a Porsche, same thing for the oil that's used. Is it easy to do an oil change? Only if you have the right tools. Like your R8 it's going to take more oil then a Camry.

Vapordan

Right! And the right tool includes, among other things, a scanner to reset the oil thingy for $300. I’m at the point where I want to do my own oil changes but the scanner I bought last month did not work which wasted more of my time.

For my time and money, I’m just going to take it in to a dealer. If you all have that time, go for it. I don’t.