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To change all 4 wheels, the cayenne should be on jack stands. But there is only 1 lift point at each corner, which means you can lift it, but there’s no where to put a jack stand.
Where should the lift go??
I called the dealer and they said the suspension bolts, pictured below. The front bolts aren’t flat and the rear bolts are tucked into the frame and hard to access. The rest of the underbody is all covered in protective material. This is nuts. No pun intended.
Great question. I too am planning to use jack stands and it’s hand to believe there is no other info on this topic. I wouldn’t be comfortable going with what the dealer suggested. I notice there are 4 round flat plastic caps, on all 4 corners. It seems like there is stiff metal behind them. Could these be the lift points? I could see using flat top jack stands under them.
The rectangle plastic mounts, as shown in the first picture of this thread, wasn’t what I was referring to. Here is what I’m trying to solve for. I’m trying to bring both front wheels off the floor, having the front of the vehicle on jack stands. Where would I place 2 jack stands and how is it done using one floor jack? The problem is how does the floor jack and jack stand share the singular jacking point under the vehicle? No where online is this shared.
The rectangle plastic mounts, as shown in the first picture of this thread, wasn’t what I was referring to. Here is what I’m trying to solve for. I’m trying to bring both front wheels off the floor, having the front of the vehicle on jack stands. Where would I place 2 jack stands and how is it done using one floor jack? The problem is how does the floor jack and jack stand share the singular jacking point under the vehicle? No where online is this shared.
Two jacks, each fitted with a plastic jackpad adapter and engaged into the plastic vehicle-side lifting receivers, will do what you wrote. This is how I rotate staggered tires side-to-side.
Rennstands will do what you wrote.
What is the specific task you are seeking to accomplish?
I think what fuddy is asking is if there is a central-front jacking point, which you would use to raise the car, and then you lower it onto jack stands at the “jacking points”, which is the traditional way of raising the car for an at home oil change or whatever.
yes, rennstands will accomplish this, but many people already have the floor jack and jack stand combo in their garage.
I think what fuddy is asking is if there is a central-front jacking point, which you would use to raise the car, and then you lower it onto jack stands at the “jacking points”, which is the traditional way of raising the car for an at home oil change or whatever.
yes, rennstands will accomplish this, but many people already have the floor jack and jack stand combo in their garage.
There is no factory documented central lift point in the same way MB and BMW provide.
The easy solution is to simply do one wheel at a time. Set Jack mode to eliminate the theft warning. Then Jack up one wheel (and if you want) set a Jack stand for safety. I have a good reliable Jack and don’t bother with the Jack stand. The slight increased time doing them individually will take less time that it takes to mess with 4 Jack stands and the stands will be less stable, less safe, since there is no great contact point. I complete the last torque setting after all four wheels are done. In spring it’s not a bad idea to deal with the rust on the hubs.
The easy solution is to simply do one wheel at a time. Set Jack mode to eliminate the theft warning. Then Jack up one wheel (and if you want) set a Jack stand for safety. I have a good reliable Jack and don’t bother with the Jack stand. The slight increased time doing them individually will take less time that it takes to mess with 4 Jack stands and the stands will be less stable, less safe, since there is no great contact point. I complete the last torque setting after all four wheels are done. In spring it’s not a bad idea to deal with the rust on the hubs.
Ron, my only recommendation is to never trust a Jack only not matter how reliable you think it is. Hydraulic seals fail and they fail abruptly. Even if I had $2k Snap-On floor Jack, I would never get a body part under a vehicle without jackstands.
...never trust a Jack only not matter how reliable you think it is. Hydraulic seals fail and they fail abruptly. Even if I had $2k Snap-On floor Jack, I would never get a body part under a vehicle without jackstands.
Mostly agree. Rotating tires and doing brake work does not require putting oneself in harm's way from a jacking/lifting point of view. I have no concerns about doing these jobs when the vehicle is on jacks.
I would not get under the center of the car with a car on jacks.
I am sure those with ninja reflexes can get their hands, fingers and any other appendages out from getting pinched/crushed between the wheel and hub, rotor and ground or any other potential injuries that can occur even while not underneath a car. I don't have ninja reflexes and like my appendages so I slide a Jack stand under. .... Just me. You do you.
I was really commenting about the belief that Jack stands are not required because someone has a good quality floor. Good quality floor jacks fail.
I am sure those with ninja reflexes can get their hands, fingers and any other appendages out from getting pinched/crushed between the wheel and hub, rotor and ground or any other potential injuries that can occur even while not underneath a car. I don't have ninja reflexes and like my appendages so I slide a Jack stand under. .... Just me. You do you.
I was really commenting about the belief that Jack stands are not required because someone has a good quality floor. Good quality floor jacks fail.
I was really commenting about the belief that Jack stands are not required because someone has a good quality floor. Good quality floor jacks fail.
My floor jack failed last Spring with a whoosh while I was doing the winter-to-summer wheel switchover on the Cayenne. Fortunately, I had only loosened the lug nuts and had not yet removed the wheel. I don't know what I would have done if the floor jack had failed while a wheel was off. The brake disc would have hit the concrete and I don't know if I would have been able to pull the collapsed floor jack out from under the Cayenne's jack point so I could use a different floor jack to lift it back up. The old floor jack was 40 years old and I had used it countless times. On almost all the other vehicles I've owned, I've used the floor jack to lift at front or rear central lift points and then slipped jack stands under the side lift points in case the floor jack failed. I'll be using a RennStand with my new floor jack when I do the winter wheel switchover on the Cayenne next month.
My floor jack failed last Spring with a whoosh while I was doing the winter-to-summer wheel switchover on the Cayenne. Fortunately, I had only loosened the lug nuts and had not yet removed the wheel. I don't know what I would have done if the floor jack had failed while a wheel was off. The brake disc would have hit the concrete and I don't know if I would have been able to pull the collapsed floor jack out from under the Cayenne's jack point so I could use a different floor jack to lift it back up. The old floor jack was 40 years old and I had used it countless times. On almost all the other vehicles I've owned, I've used the floor jack to lift at front or rear central lift points and then slipped jack stands under the side lift points in case the floor jack failed. I'll be using a RennStand with my new floor jack when I do the winter wheel switchover on the Cayenne next month.
Glad you shared your firsthand experience, it was exactly what I have seen happen to others.. Happens super quick when you're just doing something simple. Glad nothing worse happened. Even putting a Jack stand with no weight as a "backup" under a solid body/subframe mount is better than nothing
03-12-2022, 12:13 PM
Where are the lift points?!
