Originally Posted by nydog

Hello all. I'm looking at a 2014 Cayenne S Hybrid with 83k miles and wanted to get an idea of reliability as well as potential issues. I will be going to drive the vehicle this coming week so any info is greatly appreciated

Originally Posted by TwinTurbo959

Guys, My wife's Cayenne S e-hybrid got flood damaged from Hurricane Ida... I am trying to come up with a replacement... i am coming up empty. Looking for a Black 958.2 with Air suspension and 12-way power seats as minimum options. Please help a fellow Porschephile!!

Flood Damaged from Hurricane Ida....was at a detail shop as a surprise for my wife , we just had two new babies!!!

Flood Damaged from Hurricane Ida (water went above the rearview mirrors)

Thank you,
Ben

Originally Posted by TwinTurbo959

Hello Everyone, I just finished reading through this discussion...and I hope to add to it with my input, observations, and comments.

6 months ago, my wife and I bought a 2016 SEH (Cayenne S e-Hybrid, for those that did not figure that out...I was one of "those").

I laugh every time I see this car with a wire going into it! A PLUG-in PORSCHE!!




The Particulars:
2016 Cayenne S e-Hybrid
18-way Adaptive Sport Seats
21" SportEdition Wheels
Sport Package (PJL Option);

• Sport Chrono Package
• Air Suspension w/PASM
• Silver Sport Exhaust System

After test driving different models, Turbo, Turbo-S, GTS, we agreed on the SEH. The GTS was a close second. My Wife would use the car as her daily driver and needed something to replace our Audi Q7 with. With the Audi, she would need to fill up 2x per week. Now? She goes 1x per week (and the tank is smaller than the Q7! 21.1 gal vs. 26.4 for the Q7)


18-way Adaptive Sport Seats: what can I say about this feature? Absolutely awesome! Multiple adjustments, Ventilation, Lateral Bolster. It is a must-have IMHO.

Stylish, Comfortable, Supportive 18-way adjustment


Many, Many adjustments


Ventilated seats....OOH!!!))))


Air Suspension w/PASM: We test drove cars with and without this system. We had something similar on our previous Q7. What we liked about the Q7 was when you lowered the car, the suspension would stiffen. This is a great feature. The Porsche does this as well, but you can also adjust the valve dampening. Our car also came with the "Sport Plus" option.


Air Suspension, Sport Plus, Shock Dampening

Interestingly, when you hit the "Sport Plus" Button, not only does it Advance the Timing, but also changes the shifting points and puts the batteries on "standby" boost mode. In addition, with the Air-Suspension option, it puts the car into the lowest position, stiffens the suspension valving, ... It is something I really enjoy about this car. It is like the car goes into battle mode. My wife and I went back and forth on this option...she loved it, but it made our car search close to impossible. Would I get this option again? Maybe. Her? Definitely. I plan on lowering the suspension and giving it a more aggressive alignment, maybe then I will be convinced?


"Issues" with the SEH:
Issue 1: I agree with mudman2, the "brakes suck" yes they do... please do not try to convince me otherwise. I do not need to get into my car and have the added shock that the car is not stopping because its tech tells it to regenerate electricity for the battery. This is crazy... it's like an extra challenge to my drive. My solutions so far: (1) double down shift while braking.... the first downshift puts it into a "sport" regenerative braking system (it is the same feeling when you hit the sport button.. it uses the electric motor as an engine brake). (2) do not drive in e-power if you are in the type of traffic that is panic stop and go. (3) move your seat a bit closer to the brake pedal then what you are used to... that way, you are "on top of the brake pedal". This trick was taught to me by my race instructor and is effective for every car. (4) change brake pads? Change the braking system? The SEH brakes are smaller than the GTS and the Turbo/Turbo-s. I am looking into Brake pads, and/or Brake Calipers/Rotors.

Issue 2: Starting off in the car in the morning in e-power, it really does not want to move... I think that e-power is suited for highway speeds (under 80 of course by then the system shuts off). So what I do, is start with "e-power" off...and then when I make it to the highway, I put it into e-power

Issue 3: Hazard button. This is a big issue for me, I use this to warn drivers behind me I am slowing down, its bad enough that people do not pay attention to what's going on in front of them... worse still that our hazard lights and brake lights do double duty. (If you hit your brake lights... and then you push your hazard button...the brake lights in the rear flash, just like 70's and 80's Cadillacs). The location of the Hazard button is asinine (see photo below). Was the Porsche engineer on vacation when he decided to put the hazard button under the radio in front of other similarly-shaped buttons? This is such a stupid location! I have hit the hill descent and the front defroster several times instead of pushing the hazard button. My solution: I am moving the button!

Stupid location for hazard button!

Issue 4: Dealers never charge your car when they have it in for service. Or when you arrange a test drive. Here, I am in agreement with mightytaco "Unfortunately, they forgot to charge the battery when I picked it up and will definitely agree that they would generate way more sales if they kept these things fully charged!". We nearly did not buy this car because we went to four different dealers (after making an appointment) and came to find the car had no charge whatsoever. I would love to see how they manage with an entire fleet of Taycans when they cannot manage this now for the few hybrids they have.

Issue 5: Where is the Damn spare? Don't get me started on this... I posted elsewhere on this matter. Solution: (if anyone can tell me the part numbers) would be to get Porsche's spare tire installed in the cargo area. But again, no one seems to know these part #'s

Spare Tire, Mount, and Cover

Issue 6: this car has no sound....what was I expecting? I don't know... but it is very..very quiet. Solution: To Be Continued...

Issue 7: I can't find any information about the tech on this car, how to drive it... what changes with fuel economy if you push "Sport" or "Sport Plus", how the braking behavior changes with the same button...etc...etc... The most information I found regarding this matter comes from a post above from waynelam83 thank you!!

Issue 8: The steering feel. The electric steering rack does not have the same feeling as a hydraulic one. When it is cold, or when the car has been sitting for a while, you can detect the "choppiness" of the electric steering rack, it does not have that "linear" feeling that you get from a hydraulic steering rack. I have no solution for this one.

Issue 9: The rearview camera seems to collect water droplets very effectively, thereby blocking its ability to work in the rain. I am going to put something hydrophobic like rainX on it and see if that helps.

That's it for now.

-Ben

Originally Posted by A40d

I just hit 200,000 km (~124,000 miles) on my 2017 S e-hybrid and I still love it. Had an issue with the secondary air injection system which will eventually happen on all these engines as a result of carbon build up, but that happens in the Audis that also use this engine and nothing to do with hybrid system. Needs to be cleaned with special tools and isn't cheap. I've never had an issue with the hybrid system. Others have. Can be prohibitively expensive to fix or replace the battery if something goes wrong. I don't want to get rid of the car at all but trading for a 2021 e-hybrid as the cost of potentiall issues worry me.

Originally Posted by A40d

I just hit 200,000 km (~124,000 miles) on my 2017 S e-hybrid and I still love it. Had an issue with the secondary air injection system which will eventually happen on all these engines as a result of carbon build up, but that happens in the Audis that also use this engine and nothing to do with hybrid system. Needs to be cleaned with special tools and isn't cheap. I've never had an issue with the hybrid system. Others have. Can be prohibitively expensive to fix or replace the battery if something goes wrong. I don't want to get rid of the car at all but trading for a 2021 e-hybrid as the cost of potentiall issues worry me.

Originally Posted by pab77777

Should I consider this car? I'm guessing the hybrid battery will have to be replaced at a great expense. Should I keep looking?