knorrena

I am looking at replacing my v8 4runner with a 2013 or a 2016 Cayenne diesel. The 2013 is priced at $33,000, and the 2016 is priced at $60,000CDN, but is a CPO vehicle. Both have ~50,000kms. I am struggling with understanding the technical and mechanical differences between the two and what would make the 2016 worth ~$30,000 more. THe 2016 has adjustable sport suspension (Porsche premium intelligence sport package) and the Bose surround system), whereas the 2014 does not.

I looked throught the Porsche websites and Rennlist and couldnt find any material difference aside from the CPO, and the sport susp and Bose. Is this correct?

Sudar

2015+ are 958.2 and received facelift front and back

mafpolo

Facelift, much nicer steering wheel, and the Bose is a necessity (as lousy as it is).

chsu74

Some '14s have the new steering wheel

Not worth the $30K to get the '16. That money = $15K annual maintenance budget for two years the'14 is out of warranty. You will still have warranty until 2024 on the '14 anyway.

f4 plt

The 15 & 16 as well as some 14’s have the sport steering wheel. The 15 & 16 also have a nasty feature that whenever you open the drivers door it sets the parking brake.... but you can get use to it

Sudar

Dont have that

chsu74

And '14s don't have auto start? That is a plus in my book.

skiahh

Umm, no. not mine ('15).

You mean auto stop/start? My '15 doesn't have that, either. Don't think that was in the diesels.

coffeeisgood

wasn't there a hardware difference in the emissions for 15/16?
where 13 & 14's only needed software updates?

not sure i think about if every time the drivers door is opened, the e-parking brake would be set. (just learning about this "feature"... but you might be able to turn that off (or on) via coding)
that said, I have gotten into a habit when I park before evening i releasing the brake peddle, i press the e-brake button myself
why? even though CD's do not "seem" to be experiencing the transmission issues as our gas powered cousin models, it seems like this would be best practice / easier on the transmission. (please someone tell me if this "theory" might is actually be helpful?)
also because I back in to most of my parking spots, there is no need to press release on the e-brake button when I just want to go. If your seat belt is on and you give it a little gas the e-brake is automatically released. That said, I still finding myself pressing the button to turn it off before I go. I take a moment every time I take this for a spin and just appreciate / say my thank yous for such a wonderful truck. Yes I call my Cayenne Diesel a truck. I have heard others take offense to calling a Porsche a truck but with this taking diesel not gas, I see calling it a truck as a badge of honor.

when i shopped for a CD, I considered a couple 2015's but there was no must have feature for me in the facelift (958.2) to justify the extra cost
my '14 CD platinum edition had a couple extra options that made it perfect for me.

my advice, make your list of "must have's, no's & nice to haves"
there is only approx 11,500 CDs in the United States and a disproportionately low # of CDs for sale at the moment (vs the gas model)
enjoy the ride

mafpolo

I thought it was the 15's and 156's that only required a software update for the fix.

mafpolo

You're saying that the maintenance cost of the Cayenne is $7,5000 a year? Help me understand that.

chsu74

No. Its the other way around. There is no value buying a much newer CD unless you feel the need to have the facelift and pay depreciation.

coffeeisgood

maintenance costs are going to be highly variable
of course there will be some
are you a DIYer? how much of this are you really willing (& able to) do yourself?
how much are you going to be spending on mods? never say never because once you start, it is hard to stop & it is so much fun

no matter what if you are really worried about the price of maintenance cost, maybe you should consider another brand?
I am not trying to be mean but seriously, even when trying to control costs owning a Porsche and keeping it properly maintained properly is not cheap

958.2 was a facelift. Sure it has some value to some & only you can determine that $$$ value as it is very subjective

coffeeisgood

you could be correct, someone else will need to chime in on this one

chsu74

Maintenance schedule on all cars are outlined in owner's manual. It is not a secret. How one manage those costs going through a dealer, indy or DIY will have different costs.

Reliability of parts and those part costs vary from manufacturer to manufacturer. Typically, most of high volume replaceable parts are offered with cheaper aftermarket solutions in addition to OEM.

Even a '16 CD at around 50% MSRP with 7 additional years of drivetrain warranty is one of the best value vehicle purchases today anyway you slice it. A '14 at half of the '16 price is just that much sweeter.