Recommendations for all season tires
#31
I still stand by my Pirelli Scorpion Snow/Ice comment. Damn good tire -- especially for those of us with 21 inch wheels that did not want to have to buy new wheels and simply spend $100 2x a year swapping summer and winter tires.
Hope that's ok!
(while I have you here: what are some favored 21 inch summer tires now? LOL. :-))
#32
Banned
One comment on the Pirelli Scorpion Snow/Ice - they get VERY noisy as they wear. I have about 1/8" left to the wear bars, but I'll never get there - damn things are annoyingly noisy (and I'm somewhat hard of hearing due to riding motorcycles for 4 decades..)
#34
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#37
I was going to go with the Conti DWS06 but scored a killer deal on a set of Nitto NT421Q from www.simpletire.com in 275/45R20
The taller profile definitely improved aesthetics and comfort but I do feel that it lost some handling performance.
So far so good, haven't had any winter weather yet down here in Arkansas.
The taller profile definitely improved aesthetics and comfort but I do feel that it lost some handling performance.
So far so good, haven't had any winter weather yet down here in Arkansas.
#38
@Rossi,
I just put the Michelin Pilot Sport AS 3+ on my 2004 Cayenne Turbo earlier this month. So far I am very happy with them. They handle very well in the big rain we get here in the Washington DC area and Michelin insists they manage the cold very well and will be fine in the limited snow (think no more then a few inches for most storms). If I lived somewhere that got more snow more often or extremely cold winters (constantly well below freezing) I would have gone with dedicated Winter and Summer tires. I had Conti DWS 06s on the Cayenne and on my 997.2 Targa 4 before and I was not at all happy with their wet performance once they got down to below 6/32" of tread depth and on the Targa the Conti's were downright scary in the rain at freeway speeds with 6/32" on the outside edges and 3/32" on the inside edges (typical 997.2 wear pattern). The Conti's also didn't do well in the cold or snow at the last 6/32" as I couldn't even get up my (somewhat steep) driveway with just an inch of snow on it with out a lot of effort. I don't have long term experience yet with the AS 3+ but based on previous experience with Michelin tires I am confident for now. Good luck.
I just put the Michelin Pilot Sport AS 3+ on my 2004 Cayenne Turbo earlier this month. So far I am very happy with them. They handle very well in the big rain we get here in the Washington DC area and Michelin insists they manage the cold very well and will be fine in the limited snow (think no more then a few inches for most storms). If I lived somewhere that got more snow more often or extremely cold winters (constantly well below freezing) I would have gone with dedicated Winter and Summer tires. I had Conti DWS 06s on the Cayenne and on my 997.2 Targa 4 before and I was not at all happy with their wet performance once they got down to below 6/32" of tread depth and on the Targa the Conti's were downright scary in the rain at freeway speeds with 6/32" on the outside edges and 3/32" on the inside edges (typical 997.2 wear pattern). The Conti's also didn't do well in the cold or snow at the last 6/32" as I couldn't even get up my (somewhat steep) driveway with just an inch of snow on it with out a lot of effort. I don't have long term experience yet with the AS 3+ but based on previous experience with Michelin tires I am confident for now. Good luck.
#39
@Rossi,
I just put the Michelin Pilot Sport AS 3+ on my 2004 Cayenne Turbo earlier this month. So far I am very happy with them. They handle very well in the big rain we get here in the Washington DC area and Michelin insists they manage the cold very well and will be fine in the limited snow (think no more then a few inches for most storms). If I lived somewhere that got more snow more often or extremely cold winters (constantly well below freezing) I would have gone with dedicated Winter and Summer tires. I had Conti DWS 06s on the Cayenne and on my 997.2 Targa 4 before and I was not at all happy with their wet performance once they got down to below 6/32" of tread depth and on the Targa the Conti's were downright scary in the rain at freeway speeds with 6/32" on the outside edges and 3/32" on the inside edges (typical 997.2 wear pattern). The Conti's also didn't do well in the cold or snow at the last 6/32" as I couldn't even get up my (somewhat steep) driveway with just an inch of snow on it with out a lot of effort. I don't have long term experience yet with the AS 3+ but based on previous experience with Michelin tires I am confident for now. Good luck.
I just put the Michelin Pilot Sport AS 3+ on my 2004 Cayenne Turbo earlier this month. So far I am very happy with them. They handle very well in the big rain we get here in the Washington DC area and Michelin insists they manage the cold very well and will be fine in the limited snow (think no more then a few inches for most storms). If I lived somewhere that got more snow more often or extremely cold winters (constantly well below freezing) I would have gone with dedicated Winter and Summer tires. I had Conti DWS 06s on the Cayenne and on my 997.2 Targa 4 before and I was not at all happy with their wet performance once they got down to below 6/32" of tread depth and on the Targa the Conti's were downright scary in the rain at freeway speeds with 6/32" on the outside edges and 3/32" on the inside edges (typical 997.2 wear pattern). The Conti's also didn't do well in the cold or snow at the last 6/32" as I couldn't even get up my (somewhat steep) driveway with just an inch of snow on it with out a lot of effort. I don't have long term experience yet with the AS 3+ but based on previous experience with Michelin tires I am confident for now. Good luck.
Good luck with your AS 3+ and Happy New Year.
#40
@Rossi,
I just put the Michelin Pilot Sport AS 3+ on my 2004 Cayenne Turbo earlier this month. So far I am very happy with them. They handle very well in the big rain we get here in the Washington DC area and Michelin insists they manage the cold very well and will be fine in the limited snow (think no more then a few inches for most storms). If I lived somewhere that got more snow more often or extremely cold winters (constantly well below freezing) I would have gone with dedicated Winter and Summer tires. I had Conti DWS 06s on the Cayenne and on my 997.2 Targa 4 before and I was not at all happy with their wet performance once they got down to below 6/32" of tread depth and on the Targa the Conti's were downright scary in the rain at freeway speeds with 6/32" on the outside edges and 3/32" on the inside edges (typical 997.2 wear pattern). The Conti's also didn't do well in the cold or snow at the last 6/32" as I couldn't even get up my (somewhat steep) driveway with just an inch of snow on it with out a lot of effort. I don't have long term experience yet with the AS 3+ but based on previous experience with Michelin tires I am confident for now. Good luck.
I just put the Michelin Pilot Sport AS 3+ on my 2004 Cayenne Turbo earlier this month. So far I am very happy with them. They handle very well in the big rain we get here in the Washington DC area and Michelin insists they manage the cold very well and will be fine in the limited snow (think no more then a few inches for most storms). If I lived somewhere that got more snow more often or extremely cold winters (constantly well below freezing) I would have gone with dedicated Winter and Summer tires. I had Conti DWS 06s on the Cayenne and on my 997.2 Targa 4 before and I was not at all happy with their wet performance once they got down to below 6/32" of tread depth and on the Targa the Conti's were downright scary in the rain at freeway speeds with 6/32" on the outside edges and 3/32" on the inside edges (typical 997.2 wear pattern). The Conti's also didn't do well in the cold or snow at the last 6/32" as I couldn't even get up my (somewhat steep) driveway with just an inch of snow on it with out a lot of effort. I don't have long term experience yet with the AS 3+ but based on previous experience with Michelin tires I am confident for now. Good luck.
The Conti DWS and DWS06 have been great for our mixed all season weather in NoVA. Very capable in a few inches of snow and excellent wet performance. Dry yes, you loose a little bit in sidewall flex and ultimate grip, but IMO the DWS is a true AS with a great blend of performance. Very predictable when driven to the limits of adhesion which helps in the twisties as well At this point most of our normal passenger cars are running DWS tires.
The TireRack tests and reviews are pretty spot on my take as well. They have a good comparison of the HP AS tires on their website.
#41
Hello,
I have a 2016 Cayenne SE Hybrid, OEM Goodyear Eagle LS2 with 44K miles.
Time to replace all-seasons for a mix of freeway and city driving with 4 seasons in Northern Ohio.
I did not like these tires in wet conditions.
They weren't awful in snow.
Any recommendations between the N rated options (Michelin, Continental, Pirelli and Goodyear, or others I may not be aware of?)
Thanks
I have a 2016 Cayenne SE Hybrid, OEM Goodyear Eagle LS2 with 44K miles.
Time to replace all-seasons for a mix of freeway and city driving with 4 seasons in Northern Ohio.
I did not like these tires in wet conditions.
They weren't awful in snow.
Any recommendations between the N rated options (Michelin, Continental, Pirelli and Goodyear, or others I may not be aware of?)
Thanks
#44
I wish the Hakkapellita's were easier to get in Canada - which is kind of crazy. The best snow tires on earth in one of the snowiest countries on earth and what does Nokian do? Sign an exclusivity deal with a single retailer.