"Shopping" for used Cayenne, is enter & drive that rare?
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I'm shopping pretty hard for a 2009-11 Cayenne with the keyless enter & drive option. The problem is that my online searches are not finding cars with this option. What's the deal?
Is this such a rare option that very few cars have it, or is this feature being listed under a different name/term or do I need to be searching for a particular feature package?
It seems that many adverts claim the car has "keyless entry," but from what I can tell, this also often just means that you can unlock the car with the remote. I am looking for the cars with the button on the door handle so that I can enter and start the car while leaving the key in my pocket.
Is this such a rare option that very few cars have it, or is this feature being listed under a different name/term or do I need to be searching for a particular feature package?
It seems that many adverts claim the car has "keyless entry," but from what I can tell, this also often just means that you can unlock the car with the remote. I am looking for the cars with the button on the door handle so that I can enter and start the car while leaving the key in my pocket.
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Yep. I've got it on my Benz and I don't really want to live without it on a Cayenne - which will be my daily driver. There are many Cayenne's for sale in my budget, but for some reason, entry & drive is very rarely in the feature list (but "keyless entry" shows up a lot) so I cannot tell if a particular listing has it or not.
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Do you realize that the PE&D option still requires a "key"? Check it out here. Specifically
With Porsche Entry & Drive, you can avoid the inconvenience of using a conventional key. To enter the car, simply touch the door handle and the system automatically checks the encrypted access code on the key in your pocket. If the code is accepted, the doors are unlocked and you can step inside. To start or stop the engine, simply turn the ignition. When you leave the car, all you have to do is press a button on the outside of the door handle. Porsche Entry & Drive then locks the car, arms the immobiliser and locks the steering column.
And adding insult to injury, the "key" is plastic.
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With Porsche Entry & Drive, you can avoid the inconvenience of using a conventional key. To enter the car, simply touch the door handle and the system automatically checks the encrypted access code on the key in your pocket. If the code is accepted, the doors are unlocked and you can step inside. To start or stop the engine, simply turn the ignition. When you leave the car, all you have to do is press a button on the outside of the door handle. Porsche Entry & Drive then locks the car, arms the immobiliser and locks the steering column.
And adding insult to injury, the "key" is plastic.
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You don't get it. Yes, the keyfob remains on your person. But it's not like other vehicles where you've got a nice obvious START button to push. In the case of the Cayenne, here's an additional plastic "key" that you have to stick into the slot where the keyfob would ordinarily go. To me, that's comparatively archaic - and not worth the price they're asking for it.
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You don't stick the plastic "key" into the slot. It remains there all the time. I agree, it's not as nice as a START button, but it's not completely useless either.
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I guess you don't see the irony in this. Instead of taking the standard keyfob out of your pocket and inserting it into the ignition slot to start/stop the engine, you want to pay big bucks for a plastic key that does the same thing. In the spirit of Johnny's response, what a crap design. And judging by the fact you can't find any, sorta suggests all those previous owners thought so too.
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On the bright side, 90% of the time it does unlock the doors upon the SECOND pull on the door handle... 5% of the time on the first pull of the door handle and the remaining 5% it gives you the finger and makes you push the FOB.
After living with it for, what, 7 years? I would not pay a dime for it. Now, I'd take it for free though because I like walking up to my 6 figure car and pulling on the door handle like a slot machine, wondering what I'm gonna get.
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Lot of valid points here.
- Expensive Stand Alone Option -- maybe worth $200
- Should be included in Premium Packages
- Poor Implementation -- no start button -- key hanging (could invite break-in, thinking key's in car)
- Door should unlock as you approach car
Who wants to pay $1K for a minor convenience feature that has poor implementation? I know, lots of you do. On my previously owned 2004CT, I had enough issues with the standard remote locking / unlocking system working -- sometimes had to put the key in the door lock -- open it that way / sometimes alarm would go off when I did that -- had to turn ignition key real fast after opening lock to avoid alarm.
Now, the thought of adding another variable into this system was not a priority in my recent purchase. Kept things fairly simple in my 2013CD, and everything works -- very pleased. I know better than asking for trouble.
- Expensive Stand Alone Option -- maybe worth $200
- Should be included in Premium Packages
- Poor Implementation -- no start button -- key hanging (could invite break-in, thinking key's in car)
- Door should unlock as you approach car
Who wants to pay $1K for a minor convenience feature that has poor implementation? I know, lots of you do. On my previously owned 2004CT, I had enough issues with the standard remote locking / unlocking system working -- sometimes had to put the key in the door lock -- open it that way / sometimes alarm would go off when I did that -- had to turn ignition key real fast after opening lock to avoid alarm.
Now, the thought of adding another variable into this system was not a priority in my recent purchase. Kept things fairly simple in my 2013CD, and everything works -- very pleased. I know better than asking for trouble.
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I guess you don't see the irony in this. Instead of taking the standard keyfob out of your pocket and inserting it into the ignition slot to start/stop the engine, you want to pay big bucks for a plastic key that does the same thing. In the spirit of Johnny's response, what a crap design. And judging by the fact you can't find any, sorta suggests all those previous owners thought so too.
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