S Hybrid or Diesel
10-10-2012, 02:39 PM
#16
I will just leave this over here 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...sGiGp3w#t=179s
(should be queued up at the middle of the video)
Cynicism aside, conclusion is "it's not what [technology] you drive, it's how you drive it!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...sGiGp3w#t=179s
(should be queued up at the middle of the video)
Cynicism aside, conclusion is "it's not what [technology] you drive, it's how you drive it!"
10-13-2012, 03:15 PM
#18
Here is an in-depth video review of the Cayenne Hybrid that I ran into on youtube ...
Conveniently queued to to the part where it re-iterates the points I made in my earlier post on this thread:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...WOAV6Dc#t=278s
Conclusion:
"If that doesn't sound complicated to you, you don't know what complicated is! And this car drives complicatedly."
"Hybrid vs S: +3MPG more efficient, -0.5s slower, +385lbs heavier, -3.2c-ft smaller trunk space, no spare tire, and surprise - dirtier emissions, +$4,000 more expensive".
"I got doubts if a Cayenne Hybrid makes any sense."
Conveniently queued to to the part where it re-iterates the points I made in my earlier post on this thread:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...WOAV6Dc#t=278s
Conclusion:
"If that doesn't sound complicated to you, you don't know what complicated is! And this car drives complicatedly."
"Hybrid vs S: +3MPG more efficient, -0.5s slower, +385lbs heavier, -3.2c-ft smaller trunk space, no spare tire, and surprise - dirtier emissions, +$4,000 more expensive".
"I got doubts if a Cayenne Hybrid makes any sense."
10-13-2012, 07:22 PM
#19
The average fuel economy number is also bit suspect as it will be vastly different depending on the type of driving you do.
In theory, If you do all "stop and go" traffic in an big city the hybrid could do 100 mpg and the S could do 8 mpg.. The more highway travel you put in that mix the closer those numbers get together.
In theory, If you do all "stop and go" traffic in an big city the hybrid could do 100 mpg and the S could do 8 mpg.. The more highway travel you put in that mix the closer those numbers get together.
10-13-2012, 07:30 PM
#20
Rennlist Member
Given the premium market segment it strikes me as odd they didn't hybridize a diesel. I honestly think no premium maker has done it yet because it will cannibalize. Talk about a fuel efficient torque monster. The usual argument against it is increased cost.. Which surely doesn't apply to Porsche segment.
10-13-2012, 08:01 PM
#21
Mercedes has done EXACTLY that!
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/07/30/2...k-spin-review/
How is that for a Cayenne alternative, if you value efficiency above all else? Advertised 65 MPG! The testers in this review got 44 MPG during their test drive style driving. Much bigger trunk than the Cayenne, respectable 0-60 in 7.5s, 435 lb/ft torque, and available 4wd!
"A chief challenge to creating a viable parallel diesel hybrid system has been overcoming the sheer costs to the buyer. The adage goes: "expensive diesel + expensive hybrid = expensive diesel hybrid." This may be true on some levels, but we seem to have arrived at a point where the costs of scale are finally helping now that more and more joint ventures contribute to lower pricing."
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/07/30/2...k-spin-review/
How is that for a Cayenne alternative, if you value efficiency above all else? Advertised 65 MPG! The testers in this review got 44 MPG during their test drive style driving. Much bigger trunk than the Cayenne, respectable 0-60 in 7.5s, 435 lb/ft torque, and available 4wd!
"A chief challenge to creating a viable parallel diesel hybrid system has been overcoming the sheer costs to the buyer. The adage goes: "expensive diesel + expensive hybrid = expensive diesel hybrid." This may be true on some levels, but we seem to have arrived at a point where the costs of scale are finally helping now that more and more joint ventures contribute to lower pricing."
Last edited by steve_Cayenne; 10-13-2012 at 08:36 PM.
