rrich49132

I have been looking for a Ceyenne S and drove a 2005 Turbo S for the first time and all I was in total shock. I think I am now spoiled and am no longer sure if I want an S model.

With that being said is the Turbo S any more in terms of maintenance that the S model? I would think the same issues like the coolant tubes, coils and such are the same part for the Turbo?

The practical part of me does not think I should pay like $8000 or so more for a Turbo but driving it is night and day compared to the regular one. I thought it was a bit of a stretch spending about $23K for an S model with 75K miles or so and to spend about $31K or so for a Turbo model with similar mileage does not seem to be smart.

Anyways love the car and will have to think about this.

ltc

Settle down, take a deep breath ... you didn't just drive an F1 car.

A Turbo S is just a Turbo with some Tequipment parts bin items that didn't sell particularly well (like Powerkit (engine and brake), an S badge, etc). The same approach was used on the 996 Turbo vs 996 Turbo S (nearing end of model run, so clean out the Tequipment/options part bins).

The NA V8 is the core of the TT V8, so expect the same issues with coils and coolant tubes (and throw in the T fitting for good measure).

Apart from that, nothing else to worry about.
RL member T2 has over 200K miles on his Cayenne Turbo (and IIRC, 275K miles on his 996 TT).

seankrider

Congrats, you're almost there. You just relived my Cayenne buying experience to a tee. I was ready to write the check for an S, but decided to drive a Turbo since it was on the lot...and the rest is history. So glad I did.

I won't repeat-pontificate my thesis on why I'm convinced the Turbos are the best value over the other models...but let's just say that $7-8K is probably the best $7-8K you can spend on any P-car if you at all like acceleration. (And you are looking at a Porsche).

https://rennlist.com/forums/porsche-...ml#post8211033
https://rennlist.com/forums/porsche-...ml#post8182374

LTC is right that the Turbos are the same maintenance as the CS, plus the extra coolant pipe tee-fitting. And of course turbos if they ever go bad.

Plus expect to use more oil, more gas, more tires, and more brakes if you utilize the Turbo as it was meant to be driven...

seankrider

That may be true... but I must say it is an altogether unexpected experience from a 6,000lb tank, that can hold a family of 5, dogs, skis, luggage, and an odd-shaped trapezoidal box in the hidden storage compartment.

When you're test-driving a 911 Turbo or a GT-3 for the first time, you have a pretty good idea what is about to happen. Which is why the CTT was so amazing to me. A practical family-hauler, that can do a dirt trail, and they still left a fair amount of Porsche in it.

I let a guy I work with drive mine once, and he was absolutely stunned once he wound it up. It this whole you-gotta-be-kidding me experience from an SUV.

At least that's why I love mine - way more practical than the two-door P-cars, with most of the fun still in it. Nice to see someone else experience the same thing.

Mark Brillo

same story here.. from v6, to S to Turbo, then to Turbo S.. in a span of 4 yrs.. couldn't get the trade-in price settled in my other SUV so i waited and waited.. and good thing the prices went down on these 955's... it was about $4k difference between the CTT and the CTT-S and it was worth the "S" badge at the back..

BTW, didn't they release the CTT-S in 2006? don't get too excited.. you may be driving a CTT with "S" badge only.. it's good to research using the VIN of the car to make sure you are getting a CTT-S.. i've seen a few CTT with "upgraded" sports exhaust, added "S" badge, replaced door sills, etc..

bigbuzuki

The turbo will keep you happy for a long time.
A stock 2003 Cayenne Turbo still sprints faster (0-60) than a 2011 Cayenne S.

rsr

Thats right there was no turbo s in 2005, 2006 was when they came out. Porsche mailed out "s" badges to owners to get them to buy the turbo s but many just put those on their turbos. Do your research before you pull the trigger. Be cautious of autocheck because turbo s vins show up as cayenne s. There is an online vin decoder somewhere thats free and it will break down the options, model etc.

Adam Conrad

As an owner of a 06 CTTS I agree with all of your experiences and impressions. I drove a bunch of Turbos and then couldn't believe the extra 71 (521 vs 450 IIRC) horsepower on the TS. One way to tell is that the TS came with 20" Sport Design rims (at least mine did) - they are staggered offsets and they need to clear the larger rotors. There is a web page a guy setup to describe the details http://www.kenrockwell.com/porsche/c...bo-s/index.htm
Enjoy!

georgiarover

I have seen 2005 Turbos with S badges and in fact, there was a turbo power option which basically made it an S model. This option was $20,000 and included the horsepower upgrade, brake and suspension upgrade, and required the 20" wheels. i guess this would basically make it an "unofficial" Turbo S though it is really just the Turbo with the same upgrades they made the following year.

hahnmgh63

Mine came with 20" Sport Techno wheels with the rears being 1" wider than the front. Maybe those are the wheels your thinking about or there were likely wheel options, even on the TTS.

CarreraCup03

the one thing that made me go with the CTT and not the CTT-s .. is that I could get a set of 18" factory wheels with snows for 1200 from sunset. 18" wheels do not fit on the CTT-s. I wanted to use 18" snows in the winter. I realize this may mean nothing to some ... it was a deal breaker for me and the ctt-s

hahnmgh63

For the extra 70bhp I'm more than happy to go with my 19" snows and my 20" summer wheels. And I have driven a '06 Turbo and a '06 Turbo S back to back and the 70bhp is noticeable as well as the extra braking power of stopping things.

user 83838290

in 2005, you could order a turbo power option called "werksleistungsteigerung" in german (WLS), which was good for 500hp.
it's definitely not the same as CT-S as original CT-S has larger ICs etc...

hahnmgh63

Acutally, at least in the U.S. the Powerkit (E81) option included the exact same intercoolers, ECU, Suspension bushings, tie rods, and suspension controller + a few other small items. It is funny that Porsche claimed 500bhp as the TTS was listed at 520bhp although all of the E81 part #'s match with the same parts for the TTS. Maybe they were conservative with the Power kit knowing they were going to be coming out with the TTS model. All of the parts in the E81 power kit are listed in TSB 4/05 1001.

bigbuzuki

Although the components are the same on the E81 and Turbo S, could it be that the E81 Ecu has been down trimmed to 500 hp compared to the 520 hp Turbo S?