Alpine iPod and satellite navigation installation
05-29-2006, 12:16 PM
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Alpine iPod and satellite navigation installation
I thought you might be interested in the audio and navigation update I have had installed on my CS. The original CDR-23 has been replaced with a new Alpine head unit and this now allows me to have integrated audio and navigation all controlled by a single, touch screen, interface.
Most importantly, I now have full iPod integration. The Alpine head unit drives my iPod using Alpine's latest 'fullspeed' iPod link. This differs from other manufacturers' solutions by allowing rapid scrolling through Artists, Albums and Playlists in just a few seconds. You can see a demonstration of this on the U.S Alpine website at http://www.alpine.com .
Here is the specification for the entire installation:
Head unit: Alpine IVA-W200Ri mobile media station
This unit is a double DIN, touch screen, head unit that fits in the space where the PCM unit would normally be found. The cable connection for my iPod terminates in the glove box. As well as providing iPod, FM radio and a CD/ DVD player, it is also used as the display for the satellite navigation and also for a reversing camera.
Navigation: Alpine NVE-N099P
A DVD-based navigation unit that covers most of Europe. It includes TMC traffic interrupts that display live traffic problems and automatically recalculates an avoiding route. I haven't used this much so far but it seems very intuitive to use and calculates routes almost instantly.
Power amplifier: DLS Classic CA41 http://www.dls.se
This is a Swedish-designed 4x50 watt amplifier. Two channels drive the speakers in the front. Two channels drive the sub woofer. The rear-door speakers are driven directly from the head unit. The amplifier is mounted in the spare wheel well. There is still room for the spare.
Speakers: Diamond Audio speakers throughout
These are direct replacements and are installed in the doors / dash in the normal locations so the change is not visible. The 10" sub woofer is installed in the left side of the trunk in a custom-made mounting. Again this is hidden behind one of the removable panels in the side of the trunk.
Camera: Alpine HCE-C100 reversing camera
This is mounted in the recess next to the handle for the rear hatch. It displays automatically on the head unit whenever reverse gear is selected.
The installation work was done by Prestige Audio in north west London, England. They were given a brief to do a 'stealth' installation. Nothing was to be visible except the new head unit. I am delighted by the result. It looks and sounds better than I had ever imagined.
Most importantly, I now have full iPod integration. The Alpine head unit drives my iPod using Alpine's latest 'fullspeed' iPod link. This differs from other manufacturers' solutions by allowing rapid scrolling through Artists, Albums and Playlists in just a few seconds. You can see a demonstration of this on the U.S Alpine website at http://www.alpine.com .
Here is the specification for the entire installation:
Head unit: Alpine IVA-W200Ri mobile media station
This unit is a double DIN, touch screen, head unit that fits in the space where the PCM unit would normally be found. The cable connection for my iPod terminates in the glove box. As well as providing iPod, FM radio and a CD/ DVD player, it is also used as the display for the satellite navigation and also for a reversing camera.
Navigation: Alpine NVE-N099P
A DVD-based navigation unit that covers most of Europe. It includes TMC traffic interrupts that display live traffic problems and automatically recalculates an avoiding route. I haven't used this much so far but it seems very intuitive to use and calculates routes almost instantly.
Power amplifier: DLS Classic CA41 http://www.dls.se
This is a Swedish-designed 4x50 watt amplifier. Two channels drive the speakers in the front. Two channels drive the sub woofer. The rear-door speakers are driven directly from the head unit. The amplifier is mounted in the spare wheel well. There is still room for the spare.
Speakers: Diamond Audio speakers throughout
These are direct replacements and are installed in the doors / dash in the normal locations so the change is not visible. The 10" sub woofer is installed in the left side of the trunk in a custom-made mounting. Again this is hidden behind one of the removable panels in the side of the trunk.
Camera: Alpine HCE-C100 reversing camera
This is mounted in the recess next to the handle for the rear hatch. It displays automatically on the head unit whenever reverse gear is selected.
The installation work was done by Prestige Audio in north west London, England. They were given a brief to do a 'stealth' installation. Nothing was to be visible except the new head unit. I am delighted by the result. It looks and sounds better than I had ever imagined.
05-29-2006, 12:49 PM
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Why is Porsche in the Dark Ages when it comes to personal entertainment??
05-29-2006, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by pdxjim
Why is Porsche in the Dark Ages when it comes to personal entertainment??
Plus, they are not staffed/equipped to perform vehicle level validation, let alone come up with a custom design specification. They solicit requests for quote against their 'generic' vehicle level design requirement and ask their suppliers (current and proposed) to offer designs.....of course against a very low cost target (re: Dr W's profit at all costs mantra)
Oh, and BTW, their marketing department (remember, at PAG, Marketing is at the top of the food chain...engineering/R&D is at the bottom) has done extensive market research in their largest global customer base and determined that......
Porsche customers will buy the vehicle no matter what level of electronics/infotainment is in the car.
Think I'm wrong, look at the latest sales numbers and yearly reports. Porsche customers will bitch and complain, but in the end, they'll still make the purchase....don't think for a split second PAG/PCNA doesn't know this.........trust me on this one.
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06-01-2006, 04:48 AM
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Flawless install with all the features lacking in the OEM setup. Better NAV, better display, better sound quality, full and easy iPod integration and interface (the way it should be with all systems).
How much did it set you back?
How much did it set you back?
06-01-2006, 05:22 AM
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Simple: they are unable to get the attention of the major infotainment OEM's due to their low volumes. They get whatever Becker (only MOST headuit supplier currently...well, except for that Japanese company we don't talk about ) decides to give them.
Plus, they are not staffed/equipped to perform vehicle level validation, let alone come up with a custom design specification. They solicit requests for quote against their 'generic' vehicle level design requirement and ask their suppliers (current and proposed) to offer designs.....of course against a very low cost target (re: Dr W's profit at all costs mantra)
Oh, and BTW, their marketing department (remember, at PAG, Marketing is at the top of the food chain...engineering/R&D is at the bottom) has done extensive market research in their largest global customer base and determined that......
Porsche customers will buy the vehicle no matter what level of electronics/infotainment is in the car.
Think I'm wrong, look at the latest sales numbers and yearly reports. Porsche customers will bitch and complain, but in the end, they'll still make the purchase....don't think for a split second PAG/PCNA doesn't know this.........trust me on this one.
Plus, they are not staffed/equipped to perform vehicle level validation, let alone come up with a custom design specification. They solicit requests for quote against their 'generic' vehicle level design requirement and ask their suppliers (current and proposed) to offer designs.....of course against a very low cost target (re: Dr W's profit at all costs mantra)
Oh, and BTW, their marketing department (remember, at PAG, Marketing is at the top of the food chain...engineering/R&D is at the bottom) has done extensive market research in their largest global customer base and determined that......
Porsche customers will buy the vehicle no matter what level of electronics/infotainment is in the car.
Think I'm wrong, look at the latest sales numbers and yearly reports. Porsche customers will bitch and complain, but in the end, they'll still make the purchase....don't think for a split second PAG/PCNA doesn't know this.........trust me on this one.
06-01-2006, 09:25 AM
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Thanks for all your comments. Because, I drive on the 'wrong' side of the road, I'm too reserved about talking about cost. I'll give you a clue though. All the components together with the custom installation work are worth about one and a half PCM units.
I should mention that the installation was made easier because I do not have a multi-function steering wheel. The radio station display in the instrument cluster is now also blank all the time - a result of not having a connection to the MOST bus. A totally justifable sacrifice, in my opinion.
I should mention that the installation was made easier because I do not have a multi-function steering wheel. The radio station display in the instrument cluster is now also blank all the time - a result of not having a connection to the MOST bus. A totally justifable sacrifice, in my opinion.
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Originally Posted by Snapper
The radio station display in the instrument cluster is now also blank all the time - a result of not having a connection to the MOST bus. A totally justifable sacrifice, in my opinion.
06-01-2006, 12:46 PM
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Ah, yes. So does that imply that steering wheel controls are also on CAN? Roll on the day when we have a single, universal bus but I expect the oil will have run out before that happens.
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Originally Posted by Snapper
Ah, yes. So does that imply that steering wheel controls are also on CAN? Roll on the day when we have a single, universal bus but I expect the oil will have run out before that happens.
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Vehicles that are needed for beta testing are: 2007 Dodge Caliber, 2002-2005 VW all models, 2006 VW Jetta, 2005-2006 Porsche Cayenne, 2003 Mercedes CLK320. 2006 Audi Allroad. These vehicles have been added or will be added to the SWI-CAN. These vehicles have not been fully tested so they will not be officially documented in the instructions until tested.