957 Cluster Update Questions
#1
957 Cluster Update Questions
Hey everyone I’m new to the forum but very excited to be a part of the community! I recently purchased a 2009 Porsche Cayenne 3.6 V6. I’m loving it as the cayenne replaced my Ford F-250. I do have a question regarding upgrades/parts fitment. Is there any way I can upgrade my stock cluster for one of the multi color LCD screen clusters? I’ve heard that it was possible in the 955’s. Is this something I can do on my 2009 Cayenne v6? Thanks very much and again super excited about being a part of the site.
#3
What is a "cluster" as you are using it? If you are asking about replacing everything that uses the LCD display in the center (which is NOT a "cluster"), there is a rather extensively commented thread here about replacing the stock system with an Android-based replacement system so you can add a backup camera, Bluetooth, and other modern features like better Nav and such. If you are asking about replacing all the gauges you see through and around the steering wheel... THAT would be a "cluster" but as another poster pointed out, to change that, you'd have to find a different car or find the entire dash complete from a salvage yard and install it in your car. Although then you would still have the factory Nav/display, etc. And you can get a state of the art Nav unit for $100 (refurbished Garmin unit with voice commands, there is no such thing as refurbished inexpensive electronics. It probably costs Garmin about $30 to manufacture a GPS they sell as "refurbished" for $100, so receiving a returned unit, unpacking it, testing it, repairing and updating it, repacking it, putting it back in inventory... that all costs more than $30 so any company selling something like this would lose money on every "refurbished" sale. But to access people shoppinng for price, Garmin can sell the unit cheaper and CALL it "refurbished" in order to assuage retail outlets who sell the product at higher prices.). I have to admit, it would be pretty useful to have a backup camera on this vehicle.
#5
Hi Ethan,
Unlike most American made cars - Porsche builds "bespoke" models - where everything is selected specifically for a certain model, and much of it is left up to the person who orders the vehicle. That info then goes to the production area - and the vehicle is built to those specifications. What that means is - things like swapping clusters to get a different center display are unlikely to work. The other thing - the instrument clusters are indexed to the vehicle - coded by the dealer for the correct mileage. If you have a high mileage vehicle and you put a low mileage cluster in - that's OK - the dealer can make the cluster match the actual mileage. If it's the other way around - low miles vehicle, high miles cluster - the cluster cannot be set back to the actual vehicle mileage. It retains the mileage in the cluster. IE - the cluster mileage displayed can only go forward.
That makes what you want to do somewhat impractical. Can you point us to some specific links on the 955 swaps you mentioned? I'd like to glance at what was done and what the results were.
And welcome to the forum!
Unlike most American made cars - Porsche builds "bespoke" models - where everything is selected specifically for a certain model, and much of it is left up to the person who orders the vehicle. That info then goes to the production area - and the vehicle is built to those specifications. What that means is - things like swapping clusters to get a different center display are unlikely to work. The other thing - the instrument clusters are indexed to the vehicle - coded by the dealer for the correct mileage. If you have a high mileage vehicle and you put a low mileage cluster in - that's OK - the dealer can make the cluster match the actual mileage. If it's the other way around - low miles vehicle, high miles cluster - the cluster cannot be set back to the actual vehicle mileage. It retains the mileage in the cluster. IE - the cluster mileage displayed can only go forward.
That makes what you want to do somewhat impractical. Can you point us to some specific links on the 955 swaps you mentioned? I'd like to glance at what was done and what the results were.
And welcome to the forum!
#6
Ok, I'm gonna throw my hat in the ring on the noob side of the argument. Cluster is the instrument cluster - I've never seen the word "cluster" used to refer to anything else in this context.
Here's a thread where a guy was able to successfully swap a turbo cluster into an S with what seems like no dealer involvement:
https://www.renntech.org/forums/topi...uster-upgrade/
Here's another guy that failed miserably at the same:
https://rennlist.com/forums/cayenne-...rade-fail.html
I seem to recall seeing others who successfully swapped the colorful Turbo clusters into lesser trims.
However, 957 does have the next gen electronics for many things, so I could see Porsche making it impossible on a 957, but have not seen anyone try.
So, what gives?
Here's a thread where a guy was able to successfully swap a turbo cluster into an S with what seems like no dealer involvement:
https://www.renntech.org/forums/topi...uster-upgrade/
Here's another guy that failed miserably at the same:
https://rennlist.com/forums/cayenne-...rade-fail.html
I seem to recall seeing others who successfully swapped the colorful Turbo clusters into lesser trims.
However, 957 does have the next gen electronics for many things, so I could see Porsche making it impossible on a 957, but have not seen anyone try.
So, what gives?