997 vs 991 design
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In pictures I have to agree, the 991 is a more up to date design. However in person, I get caught up in how large the 991 is. I end up thinking of it as a panamera coupe more than as a 911.
(And I actually rather like the panamera.)
(And I actually rather like the panamera.)
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Just because it looks dated (especially the interior) does not mean its not a classic. But it certainly is showing its age to me. As it should its 20 years+ now.
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No argument from me I just wanted to share an awesome new pic I had....to stay on topic I think the 991 makes the 997 look quite dated and even the 991.2 makes the 991.1 look dated just as with the 997.1/2 this is how it goes with new production techniques and new technology.
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The 997 design and size is pure 911 traditional sports car. The 991 design and size is getting close to the Mercedes-Benz SL's for GT touring. I remember every new Porsche design since the 1950's, and I appreciate all the 356's and 911's. That said, I will keep my 997.1 Turbo for daily driving. The classic 911 design will keep the 997 desirable in the future, as admirers still ask if the 997 is a new Porsche!
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the comment above about fat people is spot on. Surprised I didn't think of it. Hopefully the government can fix that with some new taxes so we can migrate back to small sports cars.
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Obesity is a huge problem in the western world today (not just the U.S.). That being said, the lowest rates of obesity occur in educated people with a minimum of a bachelor's degree, and in wealthier households (those with annual incomes over $50,000). Most Porsche buyers fall into the low obesity rate category. So, why do sports cars need to get bigger? I can see the need in a mass market car like a Toyota Camry or a pickup truck. I can tell you that the adaptive sport seats in my 991 are as tight as any Porsche that I've owned. I think there's more to it than the fact that people are getting bigger.
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In broad terms, Porsche owners are overweight as well. Cars are bigger because people are.
The facts speak for themselves:
No state has an obesity rate below 21 percent. In two states obesity rates now exceed 35 percent and 20 states have obesity rates at or above 30 percent.
Now, those are figures for obesity. Not merely a few pounds overweight, but really fat.
In numerical terms, that means at least 60 million Americans are obese. Probably another 60 million are overweight, at least.
When more customers than not are "bigger", it only makes sense to make your cars bigger. As I said before, psychological study after study has proven that people who are overweight prefer to purchase products that make themselves seem more attractive or slimmer. The larger the Porsche, the smaller they feel, thus the more likely they are to feel good when they sit in it and purchase it.
Although the poor are often obese, wealthy middle aged folks with a lot of disposable income also have many folks who eat like they're going to the electric chair, Porsche owners included
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No doubt. People are bigger. I guess I just don't see too many fat people driving Porsches.
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I like both 991TT and 991GT3 but not regular 991 in the look department. As for performance, 991 is faster and more compose than 997. However, I might just add another car and keep my 997TT, I can't seem to let it go yet. It so hard to look for the right replacement car to beat my 997TT manual.
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I suppose you're right. I remember when my wife and I were first married and bought a new car. We bought a Honda Civic. The "big" car in the Honda lineup was the Accord. Looking at today's Hondas, the Civic is much bigger than the Accord was back then. The only place where the trend seems to be reversed is with Cadillacs. The Caddy that my father owned in the 1980s was waaaayyyy bigger than the ones they sell today.