997 vs 991 design
#17
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Steve, that's a gorgeous 997 TT.
#19
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I can't stand the interior of the 991. The console looks rushed and trimmed out to cover gaps. The 997 interior console fits better. The 991 may look less dated, can't really disagree there. Also, there is something about dummy buttons on a console that just don't seem right on a car that goes for $200k+. Definitely not a fan of that, either.
#20
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C2turbo, the 328gts is a gorgeous car. It has styling that will look good forever. I had an 86 black on black which I bought used with 6K miles on it and put another 30K miles. I had one mechanical/electrical problem which cost $150 to fix. The 30K service with engine out was done by an independent shop so it wasn't too bad. I am constantly reminded of how nice this car looks and that I sold it for too little every time I drive by the indie shop on my way to work when they have one sitting on the lot. All three are great choices.
#21
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991 looks big compared to 997. I also don't like Panamera interior styling cues that are the 991.
991 is surely more electronically and mechanically superior. And warrantied. Personally, I can't stand new car electronics. I was given brand new loaner Macans last two times I had dealer service. So many bells ringing all the time, and doors locking, and mirrors self-adjusting. Hate it all.
Some of the reasons why I didn't look beyond a 997 in my recent search for a "new" 911.
991 is surely more electronically and mechanically superior. And warrantied. Personally, I can't stand new car electronics. I was given brand new loaner Macans last two times I had dealer service. So many bells ringing all the time, and doors locking, and mirrors self-adjusting. Hate it all.
Some of the reasons why I didn't look beyond a 997 in my recent search for a "new" 911.
#22
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It took me a while to warm up to the 991 but the RS looks amazing
I still prefer the dimensions and overall look of my 997 tho
I still prefer the dimensions and overall look of my 997 tho
#23
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^ I would not turn down a 991 GT3 variant. League of their own.
#25
So does Cindy Crawford, but she still looks damn good
Yeah, the 993 is 20 years+ old now, so it doesn't look much like the new 991 series. I take that as a good thing.
The 997 is the only newer 911 I'd ever own, as the 911 has been moved to the luxo-GT car in the lineup, as Porsche has positioned the Cayman as the sports car the 911 used to be.
The 991 is nice, but if you like a smaller sports-type car, it's not really that, to me
Yeah, the 993 is 20 years+ old now, so it doesn't look much like the new 991 series. I take that as a good thing.
The 997 is the only newer 911 I'd ever own, as the 911 has been moved to the luxo-GT car in the lineup, as Porsche has positioned the Cayman as the sports car the 911 used to be.
The 991 is nice, but if you like a smaller sports-type car, it's not really that, to me
#26
Ive owned a 991 GT3 before. It does not look so different until you park them side by side. Im not exaggerating, the 997 looks like a kiddy car. And that was my 997 turbo.
#27
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It's not just Porsche that's changing the size of their vehicles. If you compare a 2016 Ferrari 488 to a 2015 Ferrari 458, you'll see the same trend. The newer car is longer, and wider. It weighs a bit more. The 488 is 1.6" longer, 0.7" wider, and it weighs 88 lbs. more than the 458. Both cars have the same ride height. The newer car has 660 HP, the older car has 570 HP. I'm sure there are Ferrari owners who feel that the cars are getting too big, and getting away from the things that has made Ferrari successful over the years.
Porsche find themselves in an interesting conundrum as they launch new 911s. They want to keep the link to the past, and show the heritage that has give then success for so long. That being said, they want to compete in the premium sports car market and sell new cars. They have to walk to line between new technology and proven success. We all agree that the 997 is awesome, but Porsche needs to continue to evolve to sell new cars.
Porsche find themselves in an interesting conundrum as they launch new 911s. They want to keep the link to the past, and show the heritage that has give then success for so long. That being said, they want to compete in the premium sports car market and sell new cars. They have to walk to line between new technology and proven success. We all agree that the 997 is awesome, but Porsche needs to continue to evolve to sell new cars.
#28
There's a simple reason for this: people are getting bigger and fatter, especially middle agers, who are the ones who buy high-end cars.
Many studies have proven that no big fat person will buy a car that makes them feel big and fat. They want to feel slimmer and smaller, and a bigger car gives the illusion of just that.
Porsche knows this, as do all other automakers.
As people get bigger and fatter, so shall the cars. Simple as that
Many studies have proven that no big fat person will buy a car that makes them feel big and fat. They want to feel slimmer and smaller, and a bigger car gives the illusion of just that.
Porsche knows this, as do all other automakers.
As people get bigger and fatter, so shall the cars. Simple as that
#29
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Everyone has their own opinion. I have been looking at different cars for the last 7 months. I put money down on an Audi R8 v10 and backed out when it didn't pass the ppi. That's when I started looking at the 991 turbo s. Over a months time I gradually started liking the looks of the 997.2 gt3, gt3rs and gt2rs better than the 991.2 TTS. I drove a 997.2 turbo s and fell in love. I found a gt silver 997.2 TTS with 18K miles and snatched it up. The extra money I saved from buying the 997.2 opposed to the 991 (which wasn't nearly as much as I expected) is now going into parts to get the look of the RS that I really liked. I.E. wheels, side inlets, front bumper, etc. Now I have the performance of a turbo and the looks of an RS car.
#30
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LOL the audi R8 manual 2010/11 maybe my next car...but still keeping the 997.1TT. Also, the TT felt shrink wrapped compared to the 991 Gt3 that i had, it feels so much better from my perspective