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Old 07-31-2018, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by caslca

right... I don’t get why a heavily modded .1 is compared to the 991. Much like the vid above, as a collector, I couldn’t care less how much faster your farm pickup can get with mods. I’ll be getting the stock lambo
just trolling sayin
Of course most would take the Lambo, but some of us are NOT just about show. This vid is of my former street toy. I could carry 5-6 people, haul 2-4K payload, tow 13-14K, and still Kick most Anything's A$$ driving on the road.

10.70@129.4 MPH and it looked stock and weighed 7100 lbs.

Now don't get me wrong. I love my TTS and it's Almost as quick as my truck was. But having a "Sleeper" and being about performance / power is something that floats my boat and many others too.





Same runs, different angles and diff. youtube channel.


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13 just sold for good money.
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Old 08-01-2018, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Bloose993TT
Sold pretty fast too - I wonder if he got his asking price or close to it.
Old 08-01-2018, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Rambler_13
Sold pretty fast too - I wonder if he got his asking price or close to it.
Originally Posted by Bloose993TT
I bought it...I’m going to replace the DFI motor and put the Mezger engine in I bought off eBay though. I’m kidding!

Good for the 997TT market and indeed a rare bird.
Old 11-29-2019, 02:26 AM
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How many 997.2TT Manual Cabs were produced?
Old 11-29-2019, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Clay7484
How many 997.2TT Manual Cabs were produced?
The information I have shows 656 cabs for the US and 488 manuals for the US, but not how many manual cabs.

Would also be interested as I have a 997.2tt manual coupe.

Thanks.
Old 11-29-2019, 04:05 PM
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Just like all other posts in this thread, this is just one man's opinion. I think the 997.1 will ultimately be the one to have and thus worth more money. The reason; in 10 years both the 997.1 and .2 will be completely outdated (although still extremely sought-after). Any performance increase the .2 has over the .1 will be irrelevant when you have brand new cars costing half as much, putting out more power with better handling. The Mezgar in the .1 will always be the more revered motor. The 9A1 in the .2 is the new "corporate" block found in every model from the base Carrera and up. There is nothing wrong with that but the fact remains that It's simply not anything special within the Porsche engine lineup. Even when you slap two turbos on to it. Production numbers do matter but they don't trump other factors of desirability. The 997.1 TT will ultimately prove to be the more desirable version.
Old 11-29-2019, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 8Lug
Just like all other posts in this thread, this is just one man's opinion. I think the 997.1 will ultimately be the one to have and thus worth more money. The reason; in 10 years both the 997.1 and .2 will be completely outdated (although still extremely sought-after). Any performance increase the .2 has over the .1 will be irrelevant when you have brand new cars costing half as much, putting out more power with better handling. The Mezgar in the .1 will always be the more revered motor. The 9A1 in the .2 is the new "corporate" block found in every model from the base Carrera and up. There is nothing wrong with that but the fact remains that It's simply not anything special within the Porsche engine lineup. Even when you slap two turbos on to it. Production numbers do matter but they don't trump other factors of desirability. The 997.1 TT will ultimately prove to be the more desirable version.

So you don't put Any weight on the rarity of the .2 manuals?

WAY less in numbers! Way less!

Old 11-29-2019, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Swole
So you don't put Any weight on the rarity of the .2 manuals?

WAY less in numbers! Way less!
I do put some weight on it. The rarity of the .2TT is the sole reason this is even a discussion. Without rarity, it would be obvious that the .1 will be the more desirable of the two.
Old 11-29-2019, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 8Lug
I do put some weight on it. The rarity of the .2TT is the sole reason this is even a discussion. Without rarity, it would be obvious that the .1 will be the more desirable of the two.
The .2 has other upgrades over the 997.1.

IE dynamic engine mounts, better suspension.

Combine that with the extremely low production for manual, and the fact that it is the last Turbo manual (not including GT2 RS which is in a different league), you have the answer.

Just to make it clear, I am not saying that the car will sky rocket in pricing or anything of that sorts. But without a doubt the manual .2 will always command a premium over the manual first generation.
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Old 11-29-2019, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by repcapale
The .2 has other upgrades over the 997.1.

IE dynamic engine mounts, better suspension.

Combine that with the extremely low production for manual, and the fact that it is the last Turbo manual (not including GT2 RS which is in a different league), you have the answer.

Just to make it clear, I am not saying that the car will sky rocket in pricing or anything of that sorts. But without a doubt the manual .2 will always command a premium over the manual first generation.
the improved suspension and dynamic engine mounts will be irrelevant in a historical context. Both are already outdated. The new base carrera is already a better handling car than either of the 997 generation TTs. No one is going to care about PCM3, engine mounts, or suspension tuning of the 997 in 10 years. But they will always want the Mezger.
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anyone who really cares about the Mezgar will buy a GT2/3 … not the turbo.
People will want the niceties of the .2 interior and the touch screen!

they won't want leaking coolant pipes.

and yes.. people will care about engine mounts, limited slip, and torque vectoring..
and at the end of the day.. the last turbo with a stick will be the icing on the cake.

but here and now... all of us who own 997 turbos should just enjoy what we have and not worry about the future prices...put a piece of tape over the odometer and drive it like you stole it.

this is like arguing over whose wife will look the best ten years from now!
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Old 11-29-2019, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by cyclrder
anyone who really cares about the Mezgar will buy a GT2/3 … not the turbo.
People will want the niceties of the .2 interior and the touch screen!

they won't want leaking coolant pipes.

and yes.. people will care about engine mounts, limited slip, and torque vectoring..
and at the end of the day.. the last turbo with a stick will be the icing on the cake.

but here and now... all of us who own 997 turbos should just enjoy what we have and not worry about the future prices...put a piece of tape over the odometer and drive it like you stole it.

this is like arguing over whose wife will look the best ten years from now!
I disagree, but as stated this is just my opinion. GT3 and TT are completely different animals. Same reasons someone picks a TT over a GT3 today will still apply in the future. I don’t think people buy a TT because it has a Mezger, but I do think that’s one of the reasons the .1 TT is special.
I couldn’t care less which is more valuable in the future. This is just fun banter.
Old 11-29-2019, 06:17 PM
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Not arguing about the specialness of the Mezger, but the desirability of the .2 vs. the .1 due to numbers alone.

Not to mention all the other stuff brought up in here about the upgrades.

Plus, the .2's so So freaking Bullet Proof and so dang easy to mod to supercar power.

Yes, the .1's will always command a premium but will never be as rare.

I have a TTS with PDK, so I don't have a dog in the fight. I screwed myself by not purchasing the .1 TT Manual with only 7500 miles on it, extra wheels, brand new PPF and Ceramic at other goodies for $88K back when I was looking. Love my TTS for the driver it is, but really wished I'd bought the .1 for the money making ability it had a year + later.
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Old 12-01-2019, 02:37 AM
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Based on what low mileage 997.2 manuals are selling for, it seems they have already started to go up significantly. There are so few really good examples and the prices for those are approaching original invoice when new. 130k to 160k with under 15k mikes and no stories. Again, I only had a few data points to look at.

i want to buy one to drive and not collect so it matters not


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