997.2 Turbo manual future values
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10.70@129.4 MPH and it looked stock and weighed 7100 lbs.
Now don't get me wrong. I love my TTS and it's Almost as quick as my truck was. But having a "Sleeper" and being about performance / power is something that floats my boat and many others too.
Same runs, different angles and diff. youtube channel.
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#288
Burning Brakes
13 just sold for good money.
https://rennlist.com/forums/vehicle-...are-997-a.html
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13 just sold for good money.
https://rennlist.com/forums/vehicle-...are-997-a.html
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Good for the 997TT market and indeed a rare bird.
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Track Day
#292
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Just like all other posts in this thread, this is just one man's opinion. I think the 997.1 will ultimately be the one to have and thus worth more money. The reason; in 10 years both the 997.1 and .2 will be completely outdated (although still extremely sought-after). Any performance increase the .2 has over the .1 will be irrelevant when you have brand new cars costing half as much, putting out more power with better handling. The Mezgar in the .1 will always be the more revered motor. The 9A1 in the .2 is the new "corporate" block found in every model from the base Carrera and up. There is nothing wrong with that but the fact remains that It's simply not anything special within the Porsche engine lineup. Even when you slap two turbos on to it. Production numbers do matter but they don't trump other factors of desirability. The 997.1 TT will ultimately prove to be the more desirable version.
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Just like all other posts in this thread, this is just one man's opinion. I think the 997.1 will ultimately be the one to have and thus worth more money. The reason; in 10 years both the 997.1 and .2 will be completely outdated (although still extremely sought-after). Any performance increase the .2 has over the .1 will be irrelevant when you have brand new cars costing half as much, putting out more power with better handling. The Mezgar in the .1 will always be the more revered motor. The 9A1 in the .2 is the new "corporate" block found in every model from the base Carrera and up. There is nothing wrong with that but the fact remains that It's simply not anything special within the Porsche engine lineup. Even when you slap two turbos on to it. Production numbers do matter but they don't trump other factors of desirability. The 997.1 TT will ultimately prove to be the more desirable version.
So you don't put Any weight on the rarity of the .2 manuals?
WAY less in numbers! Way less!
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I do put some weight on it. The rarity of the .2TT is the sole reason this is even a discussion. Without rarity, it would be obvious that the .1 will be the more desirable of the two.
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IE dynamic engine mounts, better suspension.
Combine that with the extremely low production for manual, and the fact that it is the last Turbo manual (not including GT2 RS which is in a different league), you have the answer.
Just to make it clear, I am not saying that the car will sky rocket in pricing or anything of that sorts. But without a doubt the manual .2 will always command a premium over the manual first generation.
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#296
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The .2 has other upgrades over the 997.1.
IE dynamic engine mounts, better suspension.
Combine that with the extremely low production for manual, and the fact that it is the last Turbo manual (not including GT2 RS which is in a different league), you have the answer.
Just to make it clear, I am not saying that the car will sky rocket in pricing or anything of that sorts. But without a doubt the manual .2 will always command a premium over the manual first generation.
IE dynamic engine mounts, better suspension.
Combine that with the extremely low production for manual, and the fact that it is the last Turbo manual (not including GT2 RS which is in a different league), you have the answer.
Just to make it clear, I am not saying that the car will sky rocket in pricing or anything of that sorts. But without a doubt the manual .2 will always command a premium over the manual first generation.
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anyone who really cares about the Mezgar will buy a GT2/3 … not the turbo.
People will want the niceties of the .2 interior and the touch screen!
they won't want leaking coolant pipes.
and yes.. people will care about engine mounts, limited slip, and torque vectoring..
and at the end of the day.. the last turbo with a stick will be the icing on the cake.
but here and now... all of us who own 997 turbos should just enjoy what we have and not worry about the future prices...put a piece of tape over the odometer and drive it like you stole it.
this is like arguing over whose wife will look the best ten years from now!
People will want the niceties of the .2 interior and the touch screen!
they won't want leaking coolant pipes.
and yes.. people will care about engine mounts, limited slip, and torque vectoring..
and at the end of the day.. the last turbo with a stick will be the icing on the cake.
but here and now... all of us who own 997 turbos should just enjoy what we have and not worry about the future prices...put a piece of tape over the odometer and drive it like you stole it.
this is like arguing over whose wife will look the best ten years from now!
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anyone who really cares about the Mezgar will buy a GT2/3 … not the turbo.
People will want the niceties of the .2 interior and the touch screen!
they won't want leaking coolant pipes.
and yes.. people will care about engine mounts, limited slip, and torque vectoring..
and at the end of the day.. the last turbo with a stick will be the icing on the cake.
but here and now... all of us who own 997 turbos should just enjoy what we have and not worry about the future prices...put a piece of tape over the odometer and drive it like you stole it.
this is like arguing over whose wife will look the best ten years from now!
People will want the niceties of the .2 interior and the touch screen!
they won't want leaking coolant pipes.
and yes.. people will care about engine mounts, limited slip, and torque vectoring..
and at the end of the day.. the last turbo with a stick will be the icing on the cake.
but here and now... all of us who own 997 turbos should just enjoy what we have and not worry about the future prices...put a piece of tape over the odometer and drive it like you stole it.
this is like arguing over whose wife will look the best ten years from now!
I couldn’t care less which is more valuable in the future. This is just fun banter.
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Not arguing about the specialness of the Mezger, but the desirability of the .2 vs. the .1 due to numbers alone.
Not to mention all the other stuff brought up in here about the upgrades.
Plus, the .2's so So freaking Bullet Proof and so dang easy to mod to supercar power.
Yes, the .1's will always command a premium but will never be as rare.
I have a TTS with PDK, so I don't have a dog in the fight. I screwed myself by not purchasing the .1 TT Manual with only 7500 miles on it, extra wheels, brand new PPF and Ceramic at other goodies for $88K back when I was looking. Love my TTS for the driver it is, but really wished I'd bought the .1 for the money making ability it had a year + later.
Not to mention all the other stuff brought up in here about the upgrades.
Plus, the .2's so So freaking Bullet Proof and so dang easy to mod to supercar power.
Yes, the .1's will always command a premium but will never be as rare.
I have a TTS with PDK, so I don't have a dog in the fight. I screwed myself by not purchasing the .1 TT Manual with only 7500 miles on it, extra wheels, brand new PPF and Ceramic at other goodies for $88K back when I was looking. Love my TTS for the driver it is, but really wished I'd bought the .1 for the money making ability it had a year + later.
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Based on what low mileage 997.2 manuals are selling for, it seems they have already started to go up significantly. There are so few really good examples and the prices for those are approaching original invoice when new. 130k to 160k with under 15k mikes and no stories. Again, I only had a few data points to look at.
i want to buy one to drive and not collect so it matters not
i want to buy one to drive and not collect so it matters not