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Old 07-28-2018, 12:42 PM
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Value is what someone is willing to pay. I have seen some people pay crazy money for cars that I had no interest but they did. It can be a family memory etc. A 997.2 PDK will hold more value to my son 20 years from now becuse that is the car we had togather. There is NO WAY to speculate what the correct out turn will be. If there was just pick 6 winning lottery nubers and Buy what is important to You. .1, .2, Manual, Tiptronic, PDK who cares enjoy the hell out of what you have and build the memories that build the value.

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Old 07-30-2018, 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Rambler_13
And by that, the .2 is notably faster and much better sorted chassis and suspension wise. I think Stout summed it up here nicely in post #5 (maybe not a "Skip" but a good summation of why over the .1 anyhow).

https://rennlist.com/forums/997-gt2-...911-turbo.html
Faster? maybe.

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Originally Posted by thxbuff2001

Haha - that's a REALLY fast 997.1 turbo.
Old 07-30-2018, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by JG 996T
Haha - that's a REALLY fast 997.1 turbo.
Reminds me of

i don’t get the point...
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Originally Posted by caslca

Reminds me of https://youtu.be/vBzVlqknZGE

i don’t get the point...
The point is I dont chase the fastest numbers game but others have. The mezger engine is one of the winningest racing engines in motor sport. If you want it to be faster, it could beat the newest 911 turbo S and still daily drive it.
Old 07-30-2018, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by caslca



i don’t get the point...


What don't you get??
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Originally Posted by thxbuff2001
The point is I dont chase the fastest numbers game but others have. The mezger engine is one of the winningest racing engines in motor sport. If you want it to be faster, it could beat the newest 911 turbo S and still daily drive it.
We've all seen some pretty mind blowing numbers from Sambo and Emre on the .2 platform. Unless we're talking about fully "built" motors, I think a .2 with just an exhaust and a good tune is pretty tough to beat...
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Originally Posted by thxbuff2001
The point is I dont chase the fastest numbers game but others have. The mezger engine is one of the winningest racing engines in motor sport. If you want it to be faster, it could beat the newest 911 turbo S and still daily drive it.
The point of this thread is values of the .2, which generally means keeping them stock or tastefully close to stock. Sure you can mod a Turbo to the hilt with 1500 hp or whatever, but market value will tank.
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Originally Posted by thxbuff2001


The only thing going for a .2 is its the last(for now) of a manual TT. The only thing similar with them is that its thesame body 997.

Its not a mezger TT, not even close.

And you have/had 997.2 TTs correct?

I do agree that stock, the 997.2 suspension is slightly better but adding the DSC box has made that null for me. Was the PASM software different in the 997.2?
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Originally Posted by Johnny DB
And you have/had 997.2 TTs correct?

I do agree that stock, the 997.2 suspension is slightly better but adding the DSC box has made that null for me. Was the PASM software different in the 997.2?
Johnny are you asking me? yes I have a TTS and had a TT PDK.
After I sold my first .1 TT, I test drove a .2 TT MT. The suspension and tranny are similar to my 997 GTS manual, of course its faster.

But a .1 TT is so different, you can immediately sense it on first start.
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Originally Posted by thxbuff2001
Johnny are you asking me? yes I have a TTS and had a TT PDK.
After I sold my first .1 TT, I test drove a .2 TT MT. The suspension and tranny are similar to my 997 GTS manual, of course its faster.

But a .1 TT is so different, you can immediately sense it on first start.
Yes I was asking you! You've got quite the Mezger fleet!

I 100% agree with you about immediately sensing it on first start as per my post above. I was fortunate to have friends with both and got to drive them pretty much back to back.
Old 07-30-2018, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Rambler_13
The point of this thread is values of the .2, which generally means keeping them stock or tastefully close to stock. Sure you can mod a Turbo to the hilt with 1500 hp or whatever, but market value will tank.
Thats why its a no contest. If you want stock by stock, a turbo S will be a drivers car.

After having owned 5 997 TT, a .1 TT is a different car than a .2 TT. Both has good characters. I am sure for now a .2 TT will command good payoffs but a .1 is such a good buy.

Even car journalist have listed a natural competitor for the .2 TT as the 997 GTS and and 997 TTS for collectibity. All in the 9A1 family.

So for porsche guys like all of us here, you just have to pick whether you want the last Mezger TT or the last Manual Turbo.
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Originally Posted by thxbuff2001
The point is I dont chase the fastest numbers game but others have. The mezger engine is one of the winningest racing engines in motor sport. If you want it to be faster, it could beat the newest 911 turbo S and still daily drive it.
right... I don’t get why a heavily modded .1 is compared to the 991. Much like the vid above, as a collector, I couldn’t care less how much faster your farm pickup can get with mods. I’ll be getting the stock lambo
just trolling sayin
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Originally Posted by Johnny DB
Yes I was asking you! You've got quite the Mezger fleet!

I 100% agree with you about immediately sensing it on first start as per my post above. I was fortunate to have friends with both and got to drive them pretty much back to back.
Mezger is forever going to be part of porsche racing history, whether it be an old engine or outdated engine.

Its the link that clearly connects us watercooled guys to the aircooled guys. Its the engine used in both watercooled and aircooled cars.

The mezger.

Some people value it, some wont.

Mezger Blah Blah, yes, thats me.


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Originally Posted by caslca

right... I don’t get why a heavily modded .1 is compared to the 991. Much like the vid above, as a collector, I couldn’t care less how much faster your farm pickup can get with mods. I’ll be getting the stock lambo
just trolling sayin
So you mean to say that a modded farm truck is a .1 TT and a lambo is a .2 TT?
Youre kidding right?

I guess this somewhat differentiates a .1 owner and a .2 owner.

Have not owned a lambo so Ill pick the farm truck.


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