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Old 09-07-2018, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by therock88

Here ya go....
yep, TheRock" to the rescue, like usual ;-)
Old 09-07-2018, 11:39 AM
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For anybody doing their own changes, you may have noticed that this small o-ring often isn't included with a new oil filter. Feel free to pay about $8 for the small o-ring from one of our common parts suppliers, or just buy it direct from China for a few pennies: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/10pc...837565867.html. You want 2mm thickness by 10mm ID. 72 cents for ten of 'em.
Old 09-07-2018, 01:36 PM
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I think I will take the 1.42 route from Ali Express.

Thanks!

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Old 09-08-2018, 02:22 PM
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I just got my oil changed. Is it possible to pull the oil filter without making a mess and replace that, just in case my shop didn't? Or just wait until my next oil change (9mo+)?
Old 09-09-2018, 01:10 PM
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If no rattle, wait. If you are getting the rattle, just put plenty of shop towels around the oil filter and yank it. I have never done it with a full load of oil, but my guess is it won't be any worse.

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Old 09-09-2018, 06:06 PM
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Mine has done this for years. Thank you for the solution
Old 09-09-2018, 09:22 PM
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So is this the end to the rattling Mezger? Now it will sound like a real engine? 9A1!
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I can't wait for the little white envelope with Chinese characters all over it - - seems like I get a couple a month these days. Not quite as good or fast as Brown Santa or Fed Ex, but I love me some cheap goods direct from China. Good post. Here's to no more Mezger rattle!
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Warning! The use of ORING material made of Nitrile rubber, also known as NBR, Buna-N, and acrylonitrile butadiene rubber will fail in this application. The high heat and low strength will cause the oring to fail in chunks. I have seen it with the 996Turbo. The factory oring is Viton "F" high temp/high strength. And they cost 5 to 8 times the cost of Buna-Nitrile orings. The chunks will lodge in your Variocam and turbochargers. I have seen the black bits and chunks in turbocharger thrust bearing pockets (is like a trap to catch foreign material).
Spend the monies on Viton "F" or pay Porsche the $8.00
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Old 09-10-2018, 01:31 AM
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Anyone ever found a good source for these besides shelling out to Porsche?
Old 09-10-2018, 01:38 AM
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In the land of "Porsche tax" for parts, I haven't found it significant enough to spend time to find an OE supplier in order to spend $1 or $2 vs. the $6.02 (from Sonnen) for a part that gets changed once a year. YMMV.
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Originally Posted by Kevin
Warning! The use of ORING material made of Nitrile rubber, also known as NBR, Buna-N, and acrylonitrile butadiene rubber will fail in this application. The high heat and low strength will cause the oring to fail in chunks. I have seen it with the 996Turbo. The factory oring is Viton "F" high temp/high strength. And they cost 5 to 8 times the cost of Buna-Nitrile orings. The chunks will lodge in your Variocam and turbochargers. I have seen the black bits and chunks in turbocharger thrust bearing pockets (is like a trap to catch foreign material).
Spend the monies on Viton "F" or pay Porsche the $8.00
Thank you. Noted!
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Thank you as well. The ones on there way from china will be relegated to my bin of nuts, bolts and washers.

I have no problem paying for items that are made for a certain purpose. I had no idea about the potential issues surrounding these fittings. That is why advice and experience from you guys is so valuable!

Without forums like this I would be lost sometimes.

Ed
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Originally Posted by lliejk
Thank you as well. The ones on there way from china will be relegated to my bin of nuts, bolts and washers.

I have no problem paying for items that are made for a certain purpose. I had no idea about the potential issues surrounding these fittings. That is why advice and experience from you guys is so valuable!

Without forums like this I would be lost sometimes.

Ed
Doing the same here! Never would have guessed that would be an issue but always happy to hear from the experts.
Old 09-10-2018, 03:24 PM
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I haven't been able to find a cheap supply of 2x10mm F Viton o-rings (and I really tried). The best I could come up with was A Viton that is not as resilient. I did find a Chinese source that claimed to have them, but they were green and although you can make different material o-rings in pretty much any color, it is very unlikely that Viton o-rings would be made in the color green. I think the reason they are not included with the oil filter is because they are much more expensive than a regular o-ring.

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