ganongrey

With 0-60 of 2-7-2.8 why would you mess with perfection, outside of a Veyron pulling up on you at a stoplight...

avader906

because you can ?

ganongrey

It just seems that you reach diminishing returns esp. when warranty issues are involved. I can see suspension mods, tires, gearing...

avader906

could well be. it's taste and colors. there are plenty of faster 0-60 cars than stock 997.2tt/tts around. in terms of handling, the car is simply too heavy - suspension (re)work required is extensive and likely only "usable" on track. while fuel/engine tune-up is relatively easy but as you said the biggest risk are the warranty and the guy doing the tuning. engine maps are historically conservative (vs. optimal performance wise) on turbo (and porsche) cars - one of the reasons being stringent OEM emissions caps and lower grade fuels around.

ganongrey

It's more the risk:benefit of letting someone 'tune' your ECU (not talking exhaust, headers) on a $150k/car.

If you're tracking, easier to start with a well-worn Cayman, or even Miata...But hey, I know guys who track Mercedes E55...

avader906

there are so many risks so whats the reward .....

GT3ZZZ

Assuming you're talking road cars, would you like to list them all?

avader906

internet is your friend buddy

boolala

^^^^not when it's being obstructive and refuses to answer a simple question, buddy......

avader906

im sure someone will care enough to jump in and list a few of the cars as well as point to nordschleife and maybe some 1/4 mile times. the list wont be complete - at least when in comes to the forum crowd - without including say uk vmax cars or some from moscow run or taking a look at some builds that been done or going on in GT2/GT3 section. but then 997 TTS is the fastest, bestest car in the world and anyone who modifies and races porsches is a heretic and deserves the 997 TT forum hell

any car is a compromise between the manufacturer and its destined owner. just because you spend 150k$ to buy it doesnt mean you cant strip it to the shell, spend another 200k$ to fit it more to your needs.

Tides

carcommander

I have a friend with a 1200hp Viper. He loves it and it will rip the paint off my Turbo. Oh well.

TT Surgeon

The tts runs the ring in 7:32
The gt2 7:31
997.2 tt 7:48
997.1 7:38

You decide, thems da facts!

avader906

ok, this is bit dated but relevant. note the cargraphic (rs tuning) 997.1tt package (modified VTGs, secan coolers, tune + exhaust - all in all minor bolt-ons update). rs tuning ran the race supported 3 cars (engines) in this year's 24h Nurburgring race - ie. not the name you ever likely to run into advertizing exhausts on rennlist. same package but with 3.9l upgrade on the engine runs deep into sub 20s - Toby's GT2 car comes to mind (search for best VTG build on GT2/GT3 forum section).

0-300km/h stock cars
24.7s - Koenigsegg CCX-R, 806 PS/1473 kg
26.7s - Gumpert Apollo, 700 PS/1148 kg
29.7s - Lamborghini Murcielago LP 670-4 SV, 670 PS/1751 kg
40.6s - Wiesmann GT MF5, 507 PS/1421 kg
41.9s - Porsche 997.2 Turbo PDK, 500 PS/1606 kg
50.3s - Porsche GT3, 435 PS/1453 kg
53.7s - Aston Martin V12 Vantage, 517 PS/1709 kg
69.3s - Cadillac CTS-V, 564 PS/1955 kg

0-300km/h tuned cars
22,8 s - Geiger-Ford GT
23,8 s - Cargraphic-997 Turbo GT RSC
26,4 s - TechArt GTstreet RS
27.3s - Ruf Rt12 S, 685 PS/1608 kg
35,5 s - MTM-Audi RS6 R
43,2 s - Geiger-Corvette Z06

ZeroH

How about you do us all a favour and list the "plenty of cars faster 0-60"...

cuz I'm struggling to think of many at all....

By the way, the 3.9l 7GT2 you mention wouldn't get close to a tts pdk 0-60.