Corvette ZR 1
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I was hoping the what is now called the ZR1 would have been the Vette that finally handles and steers like a BMW. Instead it's the same large, ponderous handling (my opinion after owning a C5 and a C6 Z06), the same numb steering, with a FANTASTIC amount of hp replacing a SUPER amount of hp. It's weird... why just more power yet no improvement to the steering feeling and suspension.
Imagine if a Vette drove like a BMW M4. That would do it for me.
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And if the leaf spring system is OK, why don't they RACE on it?
#18
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It has a transverse leaf spring in the front, too.
I was hoping the what is now called the ZR1 would have been the Vette that finally handles and steers like a BMW. Instead it's the same large, ponderous handling (my opinion after owning a C5 and a C6 Z06), the same numb steering, with a FANTASTIC amount of hp replacing a SUPER amount of hp. It's weird... why just more power yet no improvement to the steering feeling and suspension.
Imagine if a Vette drove like a BMW M4. That would do it for me.![bowdown](https://rennlist.com/forums/graemlins/bowdown.gif)
And if the leaf spring system is OK, why don't they RACE on it?
I was hoping the what is now called the ZR1 would have been the Vette that finally handles and steers like a BMW. Instead it's the same large, ponderous handling (my opinion after owning a C5 and a C6 Z06), the same numb steering, with a FANTASTIC amount of hp replacing a SUPER amount of hp. It's weird... why just more power yet no improvement to the steering feeling and suspension.
Imagine if a Vette drove like a BMW M4. That would do it for me.
![bowdown](https://rennlist.com/forums/graemlins/bowdown.gif)
And if the leaf spring system is OK, why don't they RACE on it?
But I'll wait to see how it works with the new shocks. But I'm ready to be underwhelmed...
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I REALLY REALLY want to like Corvettes, but I can't get over the corner-cutting Chevy pulls... (Suspension, interior, etc.) As long as Joe Schmo keeps buying whatever Vettes the General puts out, there is no impetus to get the job done.
#23
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To me, that Caddie interior has much too much going on, Nav is useless on an all-out performance car. Much worse the pop-up looks totally gay, again IMHO.
On my cruisers I like toys. On my purpose-mobiles I like it simple. But that's just me perhaps...
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#24
Nordschleife Master
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This is a giggle every time I hear it. Sorry,don't mean to antagonize anyone but...
Tell me about what you call performance. My Z (with a good driver) will eat just about anything you throw at it short of an Enzo, MC-12 or Bug. Road course or 1/4.
I'm not a Vetteboy. In fact,up until about a year ago I would have written the same thing as you.
The Z,with a few expensive upgrades,is still just about the fastest thing out there,at any price.
When it comes back from the "engine doctor" it will have about $125k all in. It will brake, accelerate and turn with the very best and better than almost anything you can buy at any price.
Yeah, it's a Chevy. And, yeah,to the unwashed it looks like any other Vette. But not to guys like You and me.
It's a Freak! If you ride in one that's been set up and tweaked...you'll be extremely impressed. Street or track.
In the past 18 mo I've owned and tracked;
997 C4S
997 TT
997 GT-3 RS
997 GT-3
F 430
F 360
No contest...
Tell me about what you call performance. My Z (with a good driver) will eat just about anything you throw at it short of an Enzo, MC-12 or Bug. Road course or 1/4.
I'm not a Vetteboy. In fact,up until about a year ago I would have written the same thing as you.
The Z,with a few expensive upgrades,is still just about the fastest thing out there,at any price.
When it comes back from the "engine doctor" it will have about $125k all in. It will brake, accelerate and turn with the very best and better than almost anything you can buy at any price.
Yeah, it's a Chevy. And, yeah,to the unwashed it looks like any other Vette. But not to guys like You and me.
It's a Freak! If you ride in one that's been set up and tweaked...you'll be extremely impressed. Street or track.
In the past 18 mo I've owned and tracked;
997 C4S
997 TT
997 GT-3 RS
997 GT-3
F 430
F 360
No contest...
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I think it's a great car, minus the hood window. The transverse leaf spring arrangement actually works pretty well, has been used in sprint cars for years. Doubt most drivers here would even notice the difference. The interior blows, looks like a camaro. Def blows away porsche on a hp/dollar value ratio. Come on GT2 performance at a carrera s price, can't beat it!
Re the TT vette, I think they had a lot of temperature/fire problems in testing the 'blue demon', found that the sc worked better.
Re the TT vette, I think they had a lot of temperature/fire problems in testing the 'blue demon', found that the sc worked better.
#26
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I think it's a great car, minus the hood window. The transverse leaf spring arrangement actually works pretty well, has been used in sprint cars for years. Doubt most drivers here would even notice the difference. The interior blows, looks like a camaro. Def blows away porsche on a hp/dollar value ratio. Come on GT2 performance at a carrera s price, can't beat it!
Re the TT vette, I think they had a lot of temperature/fire problems in testing the 'blue demon', found that the sc worked better.
Re the TT vette, I think they had a lot of temperature/fire problems in testing the 'blue demon', found that the sc worked better.
But I don't get paid the Big Bucks to design 'em, I just buy 'em...or NOT. Have the 1 slot at the dealer for one. We'll see...
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Competition is what drove Mr. Porsche in the beginning and let's assume it will continue to drive
Porsche for decades to come.
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I think it looks pretty cool. The only thing I don't like about it from an engineering standpoint is the air/liquid intercooler. These will always reach their capacity and start heat soaking, which is a shame considering the car is supposed to be the most trackworthy of all the Vettes
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#30
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This is a giggle every time I hear it. Sorry,don't mean to antagonize anyone but...
Tell me about what you call performance. My Z (with a good driver) will eat just about anything you throw at it short of an Enzo, MC-12 or Bug. Road course or 1/4.
I'm not a Vetteboy. In fact,up until about a year ago I would have written the same thing as you.
The Z,with a few expensive upgrades,is still just about the fastest thing out there,at any price.
When it comes back from the "engine doctor" it will have about $125k all in. It will brake, accelerate and turn with the very best and better than almost anything you can buy at any price.
Yeah, it's a Chevy. And, yeah,to the unwashed it looks like any other Vette. But not to guys like You and me.
It's a Freak! If you ride in one that's been set up and tweaked...you'll be extremely impressed. Street or track.
In the past 18 mo I've owned and tracked;
997 C4S
997 TT
997 GT-3 RS
997 GT-3
F 430
F 360
No contest...
![Cheers](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/beerchug.gif)
Tell me about what you call performance. My Z (with a good driver) will eat just about anything you throw at it short of an Enzo, MC-12 or Bug. Road course or 1/4.
I'm not a Vetteboy. In fact,up until about a year ago I would have written the same thing as you.
The Z,with a few expensive upgrades,is still just about the fastest thing out there,at any price.
When it comes back from the "engine doctor" it will have about $125k all in. It will brake, accelerate and turn with the very best and better than almost anything you can buy at any price.
Yeah, it's a Chevy. And, yeah,to the unwashed it looks like any other Vette. But not to guys like You and me.
It's a Freak! If you ride in one that's been set up and tweaked...you'll be extremely impressed. Street or track.
In the past 18 mo I've owned and tracked;
997 C4S
997 TT
997 GT-3 RS
997 GT-3
F 430
F 360
No contest...
![Cheers](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/beerchug.gif)