Upgrade to Turbo or Turbo S
07-17-2018, 06:17 PM
#31
Can you post a link for this as I'd like to learn more about it as I wasn't aware they made any changes to internals between 2010-13? Thanks
Personally for me it came down to wanting a manual so S was out of the question but with the manual .2, you're talking a $10k+ premium over the S if you can find one, especially one that is not black on black.
Personally for me it came down to wanting a manual so S was out of the question but with the manual .2, you're talking a $10k+ premium over the S if you can find one, especially one that is not black on black.
""........Because they did more then that. In 2011 when the Turbo S was introduced, BOTH the Turbo and Turbo-S got a revised 3.8L engine, with different bore/stroke then the 2010 Turbo. That means different crankshaft and different connecting rods. In effect...the reason for that was to "reinforce" the engine for the added power of the Turbo-S......."""""""
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3101 Center Port Circle
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Phone: 954-946-2136 ext. 355
Fax: 954-941-0295
Email: tomp@championmotorsport.com
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Champion Motorsport
3101 Center Port Circle
Pompano Beach, FL 33064
Phone: 954-946-2136 ext. 355
Fax: 954-941-0295
Email: tomp@championmotorsport.com
07-17-2018, 06:38 PM
#32
Burning Brakes
Quote from 6Speed forum----
""........Because they did more then that. In 2011 when the Turbo S was introduced, BOTH the Turbo and Turbo-S got a revised 3.8L engine, with different bore/stroke then the 2010 Turbo. That means different crankshaft and different connecting rods. In effect...the reason for that was to "reinforce" the engine for the added power of the Turbo-S......."""""""
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Champion Motorsport
3101 Center Port Circle
Pompano Beach, FL 33064
Phone: 954-946-2136 ext. 355
Fax: 954-941-0295
Email: tomp@championmotorsport.com
""........Because they did more then that. In 2011 when the Turbo S was introduced, BOTH the Turbo and Turbo-S got a revised 3.8L engine, with different bore/stroke then the 2010 Turbo. That means different crankshaft and different connecting rods. In effect...the reason for that was to "reinforce" the engine for the added power of the Turbo-S......."""""""
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Champion Motorsport
3101 Center Port Circle
Pompano Beach, FL 33064
Phone: 954-946-2136 ext. 355
Fax: 954-941-0295
Email: tomp@championmotorsport.com
https://www.excellence-mag.com/resources/specs/165
https://www.excellence-mag.com/resources/specs/171
07-17-2018, 06:49 PM
#33
Interesting, it seems like that would be a fairly significant cost for P to incur for 30 additional hp. I would love to have such upgrades on my '11 but looking at the specs as reported in Ex. Mag., the bore and stroke are the same for both years.
https://www.excellence-mag.com/resources/specs/165
https://www.excellence-mag.com/resources/specs/171
https://www.excellence-mag.com/resources/specs/165
https://www.excellence-mag.com/resources/specs/171
07-17-2018, 09:24 PM
#35
Rennlist Member
Notably, GT2 RS has M97.70 engine. 3.6 L / 456 kw. Nice.
07-17-2018, 09:31 PM
#36
I think you need to drive both and decide. I personally prefer the 9A1/PDK for its mindblowing performance. But many still want 3 pedals. I drive my PDK in manual and it seems like my old race car with a sequential box, only used the clutch to get out of the paddock. But I can understand how some like the 3 pedals. I do on my 997.2 GT3, but in my opinion, with 530 HP, not having PDK is suboptimal. That PDK is incredible managing power to the ground. I am still blown away every time I drive my TTS, like a missile. But to each his own on the transmission you want.
07-17-2018, 09:52 PM
#37
Rennlist Member
The crankshaft, connecting rods, camshafts, have one part number for Turbo and Turbo S.
https://www.porsche.com/usa/accessor...originalparts/
https://www.porsche.com/usa/accessor...originalparts/
07-18-2018, 12:18 AM
#39
Exactly right - There are no internal differences between 2010-2013 997.2 turbo/turbo S. Parts prove it.
That 6speed post is full of bad internet junk. That darn post drove me crazy and sent me calling all over to confirm while I was searching for my 2010 Turbo.
Fact is - 2010s (pre S) simply have a slightly different tune from factory.
To the OP - find a turbo or S that has the options you want. You can save quite a bit if you don’t want PCCBs. Also - You can always tune a turbo to the turbo s +30HP (or more) if you decide you need it. Good luck with your search!
That 6speed post is full of bad internet junk. That darn post drove me crazy and sent me calling all over to confirm while I was searching for my 2010 Turbo.
Fact is - 2010s (pre S) simply have a slightly different tune from factory.
To the OP - find a turbo or S that has the options you want. You can save quite a bit if you don’t want PCCBs. Also - You can always tune a turbo to the turbo s +30HP (or more) if you decide you need it. Good luck with your search!
