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Old 10-11-2021, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by idk_alex
Why were you bidding on this? Dont you had a black 997 GT3? I've seen a lot of familiar names bidding on these Auctions, even with another one in the garage.

It seems between existing owners bidding to prop up the value of their own cars, dealers playing hot potato, and snaveed... these cars are rarely about "the best driving enthusiast car out there" anymore and more about speculation about values.
yep I’m looking for something over 25k miles…my black one is canyons only now so I can stay below 15k miles. So really I’m looking for anything I can track and drive without thinking about any of this dollar inflation speculation Svaveed is doing…R8 or 997.2

If you read his comments he blatantly says, these are all great deals still given the amount of $ the world is printing.

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Originally Posted by Wonderdan
yep I’m looking for something over 25k miles…my black one is canyons only now so I can stay below 15k miles. So really I’m looking for anything I can track and drive without thinking about any of this dollar inflation speculation Svaveed is doing…R8 or 997.2

If you read his comments he blatantly says, these are all great deals still given the amount of $ the world is printing.
You have a really nice example that isnt high mileage nor delivery miles and you dont want to drive it because you're worried you might depreciate the car?

There's a lot of enthusiast out there (myself included) who keep getting burned and haven't had their first and a lot of other people coming back for seconds and thirds with no real intention other than speculation.... I get it people can do whatever they want with their wallets, but this doesnt feel very "enthusiast" and is counter to what got a lot of us into these cars in the first place. For most of us this is a car that we'll never sell because "xyz whatever reason its the best", so not wanting to drive a car because of depreciation + bidding on 2nd or 3rd identical cars, is not what these cars are about...
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Old 10-11-2021, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Bxstr
The previous seller on BAT, 911R, claimed the car was all original paint. It's possible the seller did have paintwork performed, but that paint meter was also not a paint meter I'd trust given that it was reporting 1-2mil readings. Unless the car was really over polished, I don't think it was reading properly. The low readings appeared to be on non clear filmed panels, then there was a 5mil on the door, which I agree was strange given that it didn't have PPF on it. Then the 8mil readings were on clear film except for the 11mil reading which was also strange and I wonder if it was from them not holding the meter on the surface properly. Either way, a $150 paint meter on Amazon is really all you need from one of the more reputable brands. Hopefully the next owner joins Rennlist.
I found that very bizarre. People requested paint meter readings, seller posted them and they were so all over the place that any reasonable person would scratch their head, and yet no one questioned them. It's almost like the act of positing meter readings, rather than what the readings actually showed, was what buyers were interested in.
Regarding the bumper repaint, I looked at the pics from the original acution, including the pic that is posted in this thread above, and I don't see anything other than reflections of some overhead objects.
Old 10-11-2021, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by idk_alex
You have a really nice example that isnt high mileage nor delivery miles and you don't want to drive it because you're worried you might depreciate the car?

There's a lot of enthusiast out there (myself included) who keep getting burned and haven't had their first and a lot of other people coming back for seconds and thirds with no real intention other than speculation.... I get it people can do whatever they want with their wallets, but this doesnt feel very "enthusiast" and is counter to what got a lot of us into these cars in the first place. For most of us this is a car that we'll never sell because "xyz whatever reason its the best", so not wanting to drive a car because of depreciation + bidding on 2nd or 3rd identical cars, is not what these cars are about...
Thats correct...I bought both a 7.2 and a 12' gated because I knew I could drive them as an enthusiast and not worry about depreciation 'much'. Based on the production number of those cars it seemed obvious and a good 'value'...if your into manuals.

Fast forward to covid and I decided I liked the 997.2 enough to track it...personal preference as to why I wouldn't turn the one I have into a track car, I'd rather find one that's highly molested. The GT3RS has more forgiveness around tracking... I wish it were different for the GT3 but it is what it is.

This community provides a first mover chance to find a good car just like it did on that $130k one this weekend.

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Old 10-11-2021, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 8Lug
I found that very bizarre. People requested paint meter readings, seller posted them and they were so all over the place that any reasonable person would scratch their head, and yet no one questioned them. It's almost like the act of positing meter readings, rather than what the readings actually showed, was what buyers were interested in.
Regarding the bumper repaint, I looked at the pics from the original auction, including the pic that is posted in this thread above, and I don't see anything other than reflections of some overhead objects.
Your absolutely right... you could sell Snaveed basically any car as long as it checks the boxes of the 'good' examples. PPF, DME, paint reading and some pro photography.... screw the check engine light.
Old 10-11-2021, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by idk_alex
You have a really nice example that isnt high mileage nor delivery miles and you dont want to drive it because you're worried you might depreciate the car?

There's a lot of enthusiast out there (myself included) who keep getting burned and haven't had their first and a lot of other people coming back for seconds and thirds with no real intention other than speculation.... I get it people can do whatever they want with their wallets, but this doesnt feel very "enthusiast" and is counter to what got a lot of us into these cars in the first place. For most of us this is a car that we'll never sell because "xyz whatever reason its the best", so not wanting to drive a car because of depreciation + bidding on 2nd or 3rd identical cars, is not what these cars are about...
Do you really think that if a few fellow Rennlisters limit themselves to one GT3, then it will make it easier for you or anyone else to buy one? Dealers will fill the void and cars will continue to trade at whatever price the market dictates. If someone has the means to buy two GT3s, one to preserve and one to drive/track/spank, etc, then more power to them as far as I'm concerned. I see people (not referring to you) whining all the time about the "shame" of cars that don't get driven and are put away in collections or climate controlled garages. I don't get it. Who is it a shame for? These aren't live animals caged in a zoo, withering away. If an owner puts 100k miles a year on a car, or they store it away and never touch it, it makes absolutely zero difference to values or supply and demand, until the car is actually listed for sale. Owners who keep mint, low-mileage examples of cars are providing a big benefit for future buyers who may find themselves searching for a like-new example of a long out of production car. I know when I bought my GT3, I was thrilled to have the option to buy an essentially brand new car even though it was 10 years old. I'm glad I wasn't limited to picking only from among 50k mile beaters. I'm sure many current and future buyers feel the same.
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Old 10-11-2021, 03:25 PM
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Meteor Grey .1 GT3 with 31k miles. Steel brakes, adaptive sport seats, and full leather. $119k original MSRP. Asking price is $130k. Clean DME and original paint according to seller.

https://www.europeancollectibles.com...-911-gt3-coupe

VIN: WP0AC29988S792083
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Originally Posted by RapidGT
Meteor Grey .1 GT3 with 31k miles. Steel brakes, adaptive sport seats, and full leather. $119k original MSRP. Asking price is $130k. Clean DME and original paint according to seller.

https://www.europeancollectibles.com...-911-gt3-coupe

VIN: WP0AC29988S792083
I hate when they use filter photography... cant see anything.
Old 10-11-2021, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by RapidGT
Meteor Grey .1 GT3 with 31k miles. Steel brakes, adaptive sport seats, and full leather. $119k original MSRP. Asking price is $130k. Clean DME and original paint according to seller.

https://www.europeancollectibles.com...-911-gt3-coupe

VIN: WP0AC29988S792083
That looks like an incredibly nice car, fairly priced (sort of) in today's market. I still would have preferred Switchcars' Meteor Gray car with 10k less miles, more options and upgrades, for the same price. But for what is out there now, this could be a winner for many people.

Also, for those of you not on Instagram, Doug is doing a podcast, premiering Wednesday 8pm. Maybe with enough of us GT3 guys online, we can get some GT content on there too. https://www.youtube.com/user/switchcars
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Old 10-11-2021, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 8Lug
2010 GT3 RS with only 1800 miles at UDrive. Grey/Black, very nice spec. No price listed.

https://www.udriveautomobiles.co/veh...be8b10271159bd

VIN: WP0AC2A93AS783700 MSRP: $154,880.00 Exterior: Grey Black Interior: Black Full Leather Warranty Start: April 26, 2010

BASE 911 GT3 RS 09991 All Excl.Opt Stitch Dev Color 191 Lightweight Lithium-Ion Battery 24901 Dashboard Stitching Dev. Color 24902 Door Stitching in Dev. Color 24904 Dev.Stitching Side Centr Cnsl 24905 Rear Side Panel Dev.Stitching 25851 Seat Stitching Deviating Color 474 Front Axle Lifting System 490 Sound Package Plus 585 Cupholders 603 Dynamic Cornering Lights 639 Sport Chrono Package W/Out PCM 78 Black Full Leather 841 3spoke Sport Steering Whl Lthr 870 Universal Audio Interface A4 Grey Black CFX Floor Mats With Colored Trim CGG Sport Chrono Timer Guards Red CLA Steering Wheel in Alcantara CYW Sun Visors in Alcantara XES Prep for Illum Door Sill Guard XFG Instrument dials in Guards Red XLG Storage Lid Alc w/Porsche Logo XSC Porsche Crest in Headrest XXB Outer Door-sill Guards SS
​​​​Finally put up a price and some pictures. $350k!
This one just went sale pending at a last asking price of $350k! My god the market is insane!

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Old 10-11-2021, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by RapidGT
This one just went sale pending at a last asking price of $350k! My god the market is insane!
The similar one listed by Isringhausen for $370K also now appears to have been sold.

And the 997.2 Turbo Udrive had listed for $230k also shows sale pending. Seems insane. We have not seen any 997 Turbos listed anywhere even near 200K. Just crazy.

https://www.udriveautomobiles.co/veh...6a72e94e50afc4

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Originally Posted by 8Lug
The similar one listed by Isringhausen for $370K also now appears to have been sold.

And the 997.2 Turbo Udrive had listed for $230k also shows sale pending. Seems insane. We have not seen any 997 Turbos listed anywhere even near 200K. Just crazy.

https://www.udriveautomobiles.co/veh...6a72e94e50afc4
Seems crazy for that Turbo especially since it doesn’t have PCCB or at least Sport Chrono (included DEM and over boost function.)

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Old 10-11-2021, 06:02 PM
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What's crazy is the amount of funny money the top 1% has right now due to covid V recovery. These cars are in alignment with the wealth increase and further boosted by the chip shortage (no new cars). These cars are worth every single penny they are being bought for right now.
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Originally Posted by RapidGT
Seems crazy for that Turbo especially since it doesn’t have PCCB or at least Sport Chrono (included DEM and over boost function.)
Yea Snaveed isn't bidding against himself, it's a new person every auction. So there is a select group looking for these cars... the momentum is perpetuating it seems. Same thing is happening with Rolex watches...

Anyone know if this one sold? https://rennlist.com/forums/market/1267764

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Old 10-11-2021, 07:05 PM
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[QURapidGT;17714628]Doug just got in a very nice Speed Yellow .1 GT3 with 25k miles. Steel brakes, full leather, pinned coolant lines, and a lot of other mods. $116k original MSRP. Asking price is $119k. Car looks very nice and overall seems like a very solid example.

https://www.switchcars.com/cars-for-...orsche-911-gt3

VIN: WP0AC29967S792565
Gone. Not surprised it went quick as it seemed like a very fair deal.

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The original ad was missing the mileage on the website, looks like it has been updated and it has 16,000 miles with a 149,9 ask . https://www.toybarncars.com/used/Por...d5e6fb0211.htm
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