997 GT3/RS Overpriced?? Is anyone actually paying the premium?
05-16-2014, 09:39 PM
#31
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I bought an '11 RS two weeks ago. I could have bought cheaper 8 months ago when I first started looking. I don't think they'll be any cheaper 8 months from now. Unless the 991RS comes with MT prices are going to hold or slowly increase from here on. If you lust for the the car, buy it and enjoy it. As we say in Ireland: "You're a long time dead".
Vivian.
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05-16-2014, 10:19 PM
#33
Prices are high and I believe they are going to keep going up , I just traded my 2011 GT3 with 4900 miles and picked up a GT3RS with 5500 miles , I always wanted the RS but with these prices going crazy I decided to pull the trigger now on the RS , I think Mooty hit it right on the spot with the prices , good luck on your search , here's the Gt3 and the GT3RS 
05-16-2014, 10:29 PM
#34
I bought an '11 RS two weeks ago. I could have bought cheaper 8 months ago when I first started looking. I don't think they'll be any cheaper 8 months from now. Unless the 991RS comes with MT prices are going to hold or slowly increase from here on. If you lust for the the car, buy it and enjoy it. As we say in Ireland: "You're a long time dead".
Vivian.
Vivian.
05-16-2014, 10:47 PM
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05-17-2014, 12:19 AM
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I have to agree with you mostly. I don't think prices will sustain their levels. Despite that, I'm picking up my new GT3 tomorrow. The time was right for me and I wanted it, despite thinking the prices will return to more reasonable levels in the future. I think being the last 6 speed and Mezger are good selling points and will ultimately limit depreciation, it's not going to stop the increase in supply once the 991 GT3s and RSs start shipping. Throw in a Cayman GT4 with manual and you're smoking something if you think these 997.2 GT cars will stay at these levels or even increase more. My crystal ball isn't perfect, so I will eat my words if I'm wrong, but I don't think you will see these prices next year. Having said that, Porsche may not consciously get out of the drivers car market, but they may not have a choice. Pressures for a bottom line and EPA laws may force them in to a corner where the best they can produce doesn't add up to our "enthusiast" expectations. Just my $0.02.
05-17-2014, 01:59 AM
#40
I think the GT3RS will stay at the current price level nominally for awhile, not $160k of course, but $135 to $145k until the next crash, it will go down a bit, but then it will come back stronger as a true classic. The non-RS GT3s will all be under $100k cars in due time.
05-17-2014, 02:11 AM
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This is a great thread. Bought my RS thinking it would be an <$100k car by now.........
And even if it was, I still would have bought it because its a beast of a car.......
Never look back.
And even if it was, I still would have bought it because its a beast of a car.......
Never look back.
05-17-2014, 02:48 AM
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I will counter Mootys point..
Porsche doesn't create home run cars after home run cars. Its a matter of Porsche history that they only occasionally hit a true automotive home run and create a icon.
Consider the 73RS.
How long did it take Porsche to create something (in a road car) that offered that level of overall excellence?
The mid year cars were not fondly remembered or regarded. The SCs were not considered collector cars...in the 80s there were a few interesting Porsches to be sure. 89 Speedster, 930s anything else? There was a 964 RS that recently has entered into the hollowed halls of the greats. Into the water cooled cars. the 996GT3 isn't really a collectors car (yet)...
....my point is that its certainly an arguable stance that Porsche hasn't produced a true successor to the 73 RS until the 997 RS.
I expect the 991 RS to be amazingly brilliant. In a techno, digital way. (gasp: GT-R). There are many cars that will compete with the 991 RS...MACs, used 458s, v12 Vantage S...and then the Z06 for half the price. I would be thrilled (and amazed) if the 991 GT3RS becomes and icon as did the 997 RS and the 73 RS. Different times, different era.
I have friends who collect vintage Porsches. All are buying 997 RSes.
Porsche doesn't create home run cars after home run cars. Its a matter of Porsche history that they only occasionally hit a true automotive home run and create a icon.
Consider the 73RS.
How long did it take Porsche to create something (in a road car) that offered that level of overall excellence?
The mid year cars were not fondly remembered or regarded. The SCs were not considered collector cars...in the 80s there were a few interesting Porsches to be sure. 89 Speedster, 930s anything else? There was a 964 RS that recently has entered into the hollowed halls of the greats. Into the water cooled cars. the 996GT3 isn't really a collectors car (yet)...
....my point is that its certainly an arguable stance that Porsche hasn't produced a true successor to the 73 RS until the 997 RS.
I expect the 991 RS to be amazingly brilliant. In a techno, digital way. (gasp: GT-R). There are many cars that will compete with the 991 RS...MACs, used 458s, v12 Vantage S...and then the Z06 for half the price. I would be thrilled (and amazed) if the 991 GT3RS becomes and icon as did the 997 RS and the 73 RS. Different times, different era.
I have friends who collect vintage Porsches. All are buying 997 RSes.
05-17-2014, 03:50 AM
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I think the GT3RS will stay at the current price level nominally for awhile, not $160k of course, but $135 to $145k until the next crash, it will go down a bit, but then it will come back stronger as a true classic. The non-RS GT3s will all be under $100k cars in due time.
I will counter Mootys point..
Porsche doesn't create home run cars after home run cars. Its a matter of Porsche history that they only occasionally hit a true automotive home run and create a icon.
Consider the 73RS.
How long did it take Porsche to create something (in a road car) that offered that level of overall excellence?
The mid year cars were not fondly remembered or regarded. The SCs were not considered collector cars...in the 80s there were a few interesting Porsches to be sure. 89 Speedster, 930s anything else? There was a 964 RS that recently has entered into the hollowed halls of the greats. Into the water cooled cars. the 996GT3 isn't really a collectors car (yet)...
....my point is that its certainly an arguable stance that Porsche hasn't produced a true successor to the 73 RS until the 997 RS.
I expect the 991 RS to be amazingly brilliant. In a techno, digital way. (gasp: GT-R). There are many cars that will compete with the 991 RS...MACs, used 458s, v12 Vantage S...and then the Z06 for half the price. I would be thrilled (and amazed) if the 991 GT3RS becomes and icon as did the 997 RS and the 73 RS. Different times, different era.
I have friends who collect vintage Porsches. All are buying 997 RSes.
Porsche doesn't create home run cars after home run cars. Its a matter of Porsche history that they only occasionally hit a true automotive home run and create a icon.
Consider the 73RS.
How long did it take Porsche to create something (in a road car) that offered that level of overall excellence?
The mid year cars were not fondly remembered or regarded. The SCs were not considered collector cars...in the 80s there were a few interesting Porsches to be sure. 89 Speedster, 930s anything else? There was a 964 RS that recently has entered into the hollowed halls of the greats. Into the water cooled cars. the 996GT3 isn't really a collectors car (yet)...
....my point is that its certainly an arguable stance that Porsche hasn't produced a true successor to the 73 RS until the 997 RS.
I expect the 991 RS to be amazingly brilliant. In a techno, digital way. (gasp: GT-R). There are many cars that will compete with the 991 RS...MACs, used 458s, v12 Vantage S...and then the Z06 for half the price. I would be thrilled (and amazed) if the 991 GT3RS becomes and icon as did the 997 RS and the 73 RS. Different times, different era.
I have friends who collect vintage Porsches. All are buying 997 RSes.
i have driven every 911 from 73 on. including 73RS, 964RS, 993RSCS... i will take my 4.0 over any of them. not for the speed, but it just feels right. probably will take a 3.8 over most of them except 964RS (from the view point of cars not as investment). stuggart got it right in the 7.2's. drive it hard and crash a few. you will then understand.. no i am not kidding.
05-17-2014, 03:52 AM
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OPO great looking car you bought, congrats.
ranger, congrats you found the GT3 you wanted. now get the bypass on ;-)
ranger, congrats you found the GT3 you wanted. now get the bypass on ;-)
05-17-2014, 04:10 AM
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I think the GT3RS will stay at the current price level nominally for awhile, not $160k of course, but $135 to $145k until the next crash, it will go down a bit, but then it will come back stronger as a true classic. The non-RS GT3s will all be under $100k cars in due time.