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Old 12-06-2012, 03:09 PM
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Default Breaking news, this just in: Porsche snatches defeat fromt the jaws of victory

Having graduated from the Mitt Romney school of self-contradiction and cognitive dissoancne,

http://blogs.wsj.com/drivers-seat/20...off-the-table/

Porsche CEO Matt "walk on me" Mueller, describes the perils of developing a modern Porsche 550 (you know, one of the emblematic and legendary historic race winning giant killers that made Porsche synonymous with smaller, smarter cars that win races through prowess of handling and durability over raw power …) because of the damage it could do to the brand (you know, the thing that relies upon loyalty and value) so he's taking the safe way ... and producing a hundred thousand mini SUVs badge-engineered from VW and Audi, and plug-in hybrid 4000lb family sedans ... and he takes pride in the new Cayman because of its core value to the Porsche brand in terms of being 2 mpg better fuel economy than the old Cayman ... it all makes sense if you just pull your frontal lobes out through your nose and stuff VW's balance sheet up there to do the thinking for you ...
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Porsche AG has put the idea of building a 21st Century version of the legendary Porsche 550 sports car back “into the desk,” CEO Matthias Mueller says.

Mr. Mueller had earlier this year floated the idea of a new Porsche sports car that would be priced below the brand’s Boxster and Cayman models. The original 550, produced in the 1950s, was a low-slung open-top car embraced by racers and celebrities, including actor James Dean.

However, in an interview Wednesday ahead of this week’s Los Angeles Auto Show, Mr. Mueller said that after studying the concept of offering a less expensive sports car now, he concluded “the risk to the brand is pretty high.” So the idea is now off the table, he said.

Still on the table, Mr. Mueller says, is the idea of a “sport turismo” – you could call it a wagon – version of the Porsche Panamera sedan. Plug-in hybrid versions of the Panamera are on track to go on sale next year, as is a plug-in Porsche 918 sports car. Plug-in hybrid Porsche Cayenne SUVs are scheduled to be available in 2014, Mr. Mueller said.

Mr. Mueller expressed some impatience with the emphasis on electric and plug-in cars, which has become traditional at the LA Auto Show, partly in deference to the pro-electric car leanings of California clean-air regulators.

“It’s a pity we are always discussing plug-ins and BEVs (battery electric vehicles,” he said.

More significant to the cause of reducing greenhouse gases and petroleum consumption are the improvements in internal combustion engines, Mr. Mueller said. He cited as an example Porsche’s redesigned Cayman sports car, on display in LA this week.

It’s new six cylinder engine is more fuel efficient than its predecessor – the 2014 model is rated at 32 miles per gallon on the highway compared to 30 for the outgoing car – but should reach 60 miles per hour from a standing start in 5.1 seconds, 0.3 seconds faster than today’s Cayman.

Porsche, now controlled by German auto giant Volkswagen AG, expects record sales in the U.S. for 2012, and Mr. Mueller said he’s confident the brand will achieve its goal of selling 200,000 vehicles a year worldwide by 2018, up from just under 117,000 vehicles in 2011. A big part of that increase will come from a new, smaller sport utility vehicle called the Macan which goes into production next year, he said.

“It’s a calculation,” Mr. Mueller said of the 2018 sales target. “Not a goal.”
I was going for a


"the risk to the brand is pretty high"


then changed my mind to a smart a$$ CL reference


but finally decided to go with the


"It’s a calculation"


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Old 12-06-2012, 04:06 PM
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Now I know what to plug into my dealer survey as the answer to "why are you not likely to buy a new Porsche?"
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..... and that's why I bought a 2011 RS.
Old 12-06-2012, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 911SLOW
I was going for a


"the risk to the brand is pretty high"


then changed my mind to a smart a$$ CL reference


but finally decided to go with the


"It’s a calculation"


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You hit the nail on the head SLOW: "RIP"
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i was looking forward to a pocket rocket 550..... too bad...
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Originally Posted by tcsracing1
i was looking forward to a pocket rocket 550..... too bad...
Me too.
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Nothing new - he said exactly the same thing last summer - the 550 was cancelled because it would be bad for the brand, in the same breath that he said the Macan will be good for the brand.

Good for sales and profit in the short term, perhaps - but not good for the brand.
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I am really thinking about buying a BRZ for the track!
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Can't we all just agree to call electric vehicles what they really are: coal burning vehicles....
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Originally Posted by RSRRacer
..... and that's why I bought a 2011 RS.
exactly!
Old 12-07-2012, 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Nizer
Can't we all just agree to call electric vehicles what they really are: coal burning vehicles....
+1

There is so much ignorance surrounding this.
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Originally Posted by Nizer
Can't we all just agree to call electric vehicles what they really are: coal burning vehicles....
Those that generate their own electricity won't agree, but admittedly that is a small number.
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They just want to make sure a new generation of guys cannot afford to get into the Porsche brand. That is certain death of a brand...
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porsche is trying to be all things to all people:

918/960 supercar
911 "core" brand sports car, i count at least half a dozen variants models at any given time
- GT range for the track
- turbo for ultimate road
- base models and weird exotics for other
Cayman for mid-level sports cars
Boxster for entry level sports cars
4x4 range:
- Cayenne and all its variants
- Macan for the every-man family. AS IF VW DIDN"T HAVE ENOUGH ANNOYING CARS FOR EXACTLY THIS PURPOSE

And somewhere we have Porsche Motorsports making Cup cars and fia cars...


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