Temporary glorious exhaust sound during cold start
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I've been wanting to ask this question for a while.
My .2 GT3 which happens to have a SharkWerks center muffler bypass, sounds incredible during cold starts when I fire her up once a week (while I ignore the occasional Smoke & Grinding noise - read more here). The exhaust note is Meaner & much Louder with zero input from throttle, just idle (Plus keep in mind Sport mode is Off. When Sport mode is On it's intoxicating). However after approximately 30 seconds she quiets down to normal idle noise.
1. Why is that?
2. Is it simply higher RPMs during cold start? (if so, why can't I replicate this sound with additional throttle input)
3. Are there additional exhaust valves that are only open during cold starts?
4. The real questions is how can I make my GT3 sound like that all the time? For me it's like having the car in BEAST MODE, but only for a few seconds. : (
Any input is highly appreciated.
My .2 GT3 which happens to have a SharkWerks center muffler bypass, sounds incredible during cold starts when I fire her up once a week (while I ignore the occasional Smoke & Grinding noise - read more here). The exhaust note is Meaner & much Louder with zero input from throttle, just idle (Plus keep in mind Sport mode is Off. When Sport mode is On it's intoxicating). However after approximately 30 seconds she quiets down to normal idle noise.
1. Why is that?
2. Is it simply higher RPMs during cold start? (if so, why can't I replicate this sound with additional throttle input)
3. Are there additional exhaust valves that are only open during cold starts?
4. The real questions is how can I make my GT3 sound like that all the time? For me it's like having the car in BEAST MODE, but only for a few seconds. : (
Any input is highly appreciated.
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On cold starts, the ECU richens the mixture, retards the timing, and runs the secondary air pump in order to heat the catalytic converters as quickly as possible. A side effect of this is some wasted energy (noise) in the exhaust system. I guess you could reproduce it with an ECU programmed to retard the timing full-time, although I'm not sure you'd appreciate the power loss...
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it's just excited, like a puppy that hasn't gotten out to play in a while ![Smilie](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
yes, you can have that full time
I can't find the thread, but there is a plug on the right side in the engine compartment.
Unplug it and, voila!, more noise.
Need to find the pic, it is easy to get to
This opens the solenoids that control the flaps in the side mufflers, causes them, to be open full time
They are vacuum operated... so if the car sits, the vacuum bleeds down over time
wait, you said this lasts 30 sec?
See above post by Shivatron, this is emmisions stuff, doing it's part to save the planet
Still, you can have LOUD full time by pulling that plug
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yes, you can have that full time
I can't find the thread, but there is a plug on the right side in the engine compartment.
Unplug it and, voila!, more noise.
Need to find the pic, it is easy to get to
This opens the solenoids that control the flaps in the side mufflers, causes them, to be open full time
They are vacuum operated... so if the car sits, the vacuum bleeds down over time
wait, you said this lasts 30 sec?
See above post by Shivatron, this is emmisions stuff, doing it's part to save the planet
Still, you can have LOUD full time by pulling that plug
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Pulling that plug still won't give it that same sound as when it's cold.
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I see. Was under the impression that it was a simple valve or exhaust flap causing this wonderful symphony during cold start idle. Unfortunately, the only way to experience such acoustic bliss is on open throttle above 5K RPMs + Sport mode. However I was in search of the sound without the excessive speed.
Sort of like the F430 Scud. That thing sounds like it's racing, while stopped at a red light.
If anyone has found the thread mentioned by MarkD, I would appreciate it.
Otherwise feel free to send additional tips my way.
BTW, this is not a complaint of the GT3, it's my way of experiencing more noise of this fantastic machine.
Sort of like the F430 Scud. That thing sounds like it's racing, while stopped at a red light.
If anyone has found the thread mentioned by MarkD, I would appreciate it.
Otherwise feel free to send additional tips my way.
BTW, this is not a complaint of the GT3, it's my way of experiencing more noise of this fantastic machine.
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I see. Was under the impression that it was a simple valve or exhaust flap causing this wonderful symphony during cold start idle. Unfortunately, the only way to experience such acoustic bliss is on open throttle above 5K RPMs + Sport mode. However I was in search of the sound without the excessive speed.
Sort of like the F430 Scud. That thing sounds like it's racing, while stopped at a red light.
If anyone has found the thread mentioned by MarkD, I would appreciate it.
Otherwise feel free to send additional tips my way.
BTW, this is not a complaint of the GT3, it's my way of experiencing more noise of this fantastic machine.
Sort of like the F430 Scud. That thing sounds like it's racing, while stopped at a red light.
If anyone has found the thread mentioned by MarkD, I would appreciate it.
Otherwise feel free to send additional tips my way.
BTW, this is not a complaint of the GT3, it's my way of experiencing more noise of this fantastic machine.
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I see. Was under the impression that it was a simple valve or exhaust flap causing this wonderful symphony during cold start idle. Unfortunately, the only way to experience such acoustic bliss is on open throttle above 5K RPMs + Sport mode. However I was in search of the sound without the excessive speed.
Sort of like the F430 Scud. That thing sounds like it's racing, while stopped at a red light.
If anyone has found the thread mentioned by MarkD, I would appreciate it.
Otherwise feel free to send additional tips my way.
BTW, this is not a complaint of the GT3, it's my way of experiencing more noise of this fantastic machine.
Sort of like the F430 Scud. That thing sounds like it's racing, while stopped at a red light.
If anyone has found the thread mentioned by MarkD, I would appreciate it.
Otherwise feel free to send additional tips my way.
BTW, this is not a complaint of the GT3, it's my way of experiencing more noise of this fantastic machine.
unplugging this will make it louder, full time
a bit different than the cold start... but may get you what you are looking for
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