Winterfest PBOC Sebring 2013
11-27-2012, 11:08 PM
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11-28-2012, 11:57 PM
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Drivetrain wear is subjective on driver, climate and hours.....the gear boxes in these cars get hot after 30 minutes or so and bind up. Some of the clutches that blow are from bad shifting / mis shifts.....maybe its a good the clutch lets go. A car ran at Sebring in the summer will have very different wear than a transmission ran in a cooler climate
A motor free of overrevs should be fine......there have been a lot of 3.8RS motors that have went boom. It happens at the beginning of its track life
I wish Giesha would have a warranty engine boom.....she is well north of 100 documented hours at DE's on the engine. Current clutch and transmission (changed under warranty for 1st gear pop out) have 55-60 hours. Trans oil is changed every 4 events with barley any residue on the magnetic plug
I still stand my gound street miles on these engines is nothing. race ("DE") hours are all that matters.....that means the hours the car sees over 6-8k rpm. Anything below that doesnt count toward major wear
Making a statement that person "x" has "y" miles and no problems is not good data for comparison if track time is not documented.
A motor free of overrevs should be fine......there have been a lot of 3.8RS motors that have went boom. It happens at the beginning of its track life
I wish Giesha would have a warranty engine boom.....she is well north of 100 documented hours at DE's on the engine. Current clutch and transmission (changed under warranty for 1st gear pop out) have 55-60 hours. Trans oil is changed every 4 events with barley any residue on the magnetic plug
I still stand my gound street miles on these engines is nothing. race ("DE") hours are all that matters.....that means the hours the car sees over 6-8k rpm. Anything below that doesnt count toward major wear
Making a statement that person "x" has "y" miles and no problems is not good data for comparison if track time is not documented.
11-29-2012, 12:11 AM
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Aero beetles break way too often, cayman/boxster even worse.
Reliable track cars? Anything light with an auto box or a dct, and lots of cooling, no one makes a car like this.
Reliable track cars? Anything light with an auto box or a dct, and lots of cooling, no one makes a car like this.
11-29-2012, 12:18 AM
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My beetle dont break on the track. OK, maybe PP and clutch $2500. Once under warranty.
The rest is just from puttering around town.
Did you get the Fiat running yet?
The rest is just from puttering around town.
Did you get the Fiat running yet?
11-29-2012, 01:39 AM
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- e-diff solenoid and F1 valve. They sit next to each other, they burned due to my missing insulation on the test pipes, Capristo shipped then over a year later. My fault for running without insulation. Eddie, Orbit and I made it even better.
- Cooked brakes. Expected once you drive in the DE Platinum Cup, not a problem for most DE Cup drivers, as they run Gold, Coffee or Moving Chicane Cup.
- The recent tranny problem. It was not clutch, after 13,000 miles the clutch is just 42% used up with 58% life left, after more drag racing starts than all RL Aero Beetles combines, plus faster shifting, plus more track and autoX. Problem was the TCU, we reflashed the TCU troubleshooting a problem with the gearbox as soon as the ECU upgrade was installed, and TCU lost its programming. My fault once again.
Do you need a reminder of all the broken parts and failures on the Aero Beetles, other than departing wheels, oil leaks, coolant leaks (these three deadly conditions), seized engines, clutches, cracking exhaust components, failing cam actuators, loose clamps, CEL, broken LCA, broken sway bar mounts, bend drop links, dead newborn diffs, broken axles, and the remaining multitude of malign quality issues on the Aero Beetles? If you do ask the entire DE Cup gang, they have the list and price paid to fix the illness.
11-29-2012, 01:41 AM
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11-29-2012, 02:04 AM
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Happily in gold cup unless you've changed all the times at every track within the last week
But I forgot the absinthe has done something to your memory over the last few years
But I forgot the absinthe has done something to your memory over the last few years
11-29-2012, 08:54 AM
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11-29-2012, 09:52 AM
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The only failures the Fiat has had are:
- e-diff solenoid and F1 valve. They sit next to each other, they burned due to my missing insulation on the test pipes, Capristo shipped then over a year later. My fault for running without insulation. Eddie, Orbit and I made it even better.
- Cooked brakes. Expected once you drive in the DE Platinum Cup, not a problem for most DE Cup drivers, as they run Gold, Coffee or Moving Chicane Cup.
- The recent tranny problem. It was not clutch, after 13,000 miles the clutch is just 42% used up with 58% life left, after more drag racing starts than all RL Aero Beetles combines, plus faster shifting, plus more track and autoX. Problem was the TCU, we reflashed the TCU troubleshooting a problem with the gearbox as soon as the ECU upgrade was installed, and TCU lost its programming. My fault once again.
Do you need a reminder of all the broken parts and failures on the Aero Beetles, other than departing wheels, oil leaks, coolant leaks (these three deadly conditions), seized engines, clutches, cracking exhaust components, failing cam actuators, loose clamps, CEL, broken LCA, broken sway bar mounts, bend drop links, dead newborn diffs, broken axles, and the remaining multitude of malign quality issues on the Aero Beetles? If you do ask the entire DE Cup gang, they have the list and price paid to fix the illness.
- e-diff solenoid and F1 valve. They sit next to each other, they burned due to my missing insulation on the test pipes, Capristo shipped then over a year later. My fault for running without insulation. Eddie, Orbit and I made it even better.
- Cooked brakes. Expected once you drive in the DE Platinum Cup, not a problem for most DE Cup drivers, as they run Gold, Coffee or Moving Chicane Cup.
- The recent tranny problem. It was not clutch, after 13,000 miles the clutch is just 42% used up with 58% life left, after more drag racing starts than all RL Aero Beetles combines, plus faster shifting, plus more track and autoX. Problem was the TCU, we reflashed the TCU troubleshooting a problem with the gearbox as soon as the ECU upgrade was installed, and TCU lost its programming. My fault once again.
Do you need a reminder of all the broken parts and failures on the Aero Beetles, other than departing wheels, oil leaks, coolant leaks (these three deadly conditions), seized engines, clutches, cracking exhaust components, failing cam actuators, loose clamps, CEL, broken LCA, broken sway bar mounts, bend drop links, dead newborn diffs, broken axles, and the remaining multitude of malign quality issues on the Aero Beetles? If you do ask the entire DE Cup gang, they have the list and price paid to fix the illness.
I really hope and look forward to you running all session hard all the time and not break the Fiat one of these Sebring events for a change.
11-29-2012, 10:48 AM
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Do you need a reminder of all the broken parts and failures on the Aero Beetles, other than departing wheels, oil leaks, coolant leaks (these three deadly conditions), seized engines, clutches, cracking exhaust components, failing cam actuators, loose clamps, CEL, broken LCA, broken sway bar mounts, bend drop links, dead newborn diffs, broken axles, and the remaining multitude of malign quality issues on the Aero Beetles? If you do ask the entire DE Cup gang, they have the list and price paid to fix the illness.
11-29-2012, 02:20 PM
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Make sure he's had his shots before you shake hands with da Greek